Hi, Derek,

DC> Yes, I enjoy the translation too, and the learning in group, but I also like
DC> to share my enjoyment with others. For example, maybe John Bullitt would
DC> like our AN 7.7.8 translation for his Access to Insight site?

It would be an honor. Can someone knowledgeable check the translation
before release? Or is there some translation to be compared with?

I have been told that there is an unorthodox translation available at
http://www.buddhadust.org/dcforum/DCForumID5/8.html

and that 'torture being spoken of in the bit about the rope, is one where
a rope is looped around the limb, a stick is inserted in the loop and
twisted...not that the rope is used as a saw.'

On the same site there is an interesting page
http://www.buddhadust.org/dcforum/DCForumID1/13.html#1
including some alternative versions of Buddhist terms.

For example, 'aggikhandha' can indeed be translated as 'pile of fire'.

Dimitry