Re: basic info on nostratic

I have been reading a little on the "town planning" of Ancient
Babylon (Babel) and it appears that as was common in most ancient
cities, the city had many "quarters" where people of different ethnic
groups lived, and were, like the later Ottoman Milid, almost self-
governing (at least for internal affairs).

In Babylon of the captivity, not only did one find Jews, but also
living in the city were Ethiopians, Sabaeans, Egyptians, Nubians,
Philistines, Aramaeans, Luwian speaking people from Lycia, Phrygians,
Greeks, Scythians, Armenians, Medes, Persians, Elamites and Arabians,
as well as Akkadian speaking Babylonians. With its spectacular
monumental architecture - it was easy for the Jews of the captivity
to believe that they had arrived the place from which all languages
arose. Clearly this was the source of the Tower of Babel myth - an
etiological story to explain linguistic diversity.

Regards

John

--- In Nostratica@yahoogroups.com, "madlinguistics"
<madlinguistics@...> wrote:

> Unless we choose to believe the Genesis 11(Babel) account, which
> genesis 10 (languages already split) disproves, its basic logic

that all

> languages came ffrom one, unless of course two separate groups of
> humans evolved. Finding the original language is where theory

comes

> in, not whether it exists. People couldn't explain it in the past

so they

> made up fairy tales about the gods being threatened by a big tower

and

> split up their divided then aparently reunited languages. Now we a
> looking for a real answer. These had to have come from somewhere.
> --- In Nostratica@yahoogroups.com, "Geraldine Reinhardt"
> <waluk@...> wrote:
> >
> > Andy,
> > How long do you suspect the theory of Nostratic to remain
> theoretical? Haven't we amassed enough information on the web to
> undergo quantitative decisions? It seems to me that we are at the
> gateway of the beginnings of a true origins of language theory.
> >
> > Gerry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Andy Howey
> > To: Nostratica@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 2:31 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Nostratica] Re: basic info on nostratic
> >
> >
> > You might want to do a google search for Nostratic. There's a

fair

> amount of information available about it on the web. Keep in mind,
> though, that it's not a proven concept. It's theoretical, and

somewhat

> controversial, at least among mainstream linguists.
> >
> > Andy Howey
> >
> > madlinguistics <madlinguistics@...> wrote:
> > I didnt mix it up. I just had another question about

information on

> > Nostratic so I thought I would ask. I am new to the idea but

it is

> similar
> > to my own theories, so I want ot learn more about it.
> >
> > --- In Nostratica@yahoogroups.com, "Geraldine Reinhardt"
> > <waluk@...> wrote:
> > > You must have me mixed up with someone else. Or else you're
> > > a machine.
> > >
> > > This is what I sent you:
> > >
> > > Nostratic has been a topic under discussion for a long time

and

> > > presently is an active topic on many discussion groups.
> > >
> > > Your point about people who evolved in different places

speaking

> > > a different language is as plausible as the antithesis

which

> amounts
> > > to people evolving in one specific area (say OoA) and then
> > > dispersing.
> > >
> > > I like to think of languages as different dialects whereby

the

> speaker
> > > of a definite "down Maine" accent cannot understand someone
> > speaking
> > > Creole from New Orleans. Both languages are considered to

be

> > > indigenous to America yet both New Orleans and Maine were
> settled
> > > by immigrants who came from the continent.
> > >
> > > Hope this helps.
> > >
> > > Gerry Reinhart-Waller
> > > www.home.earthlink.net/~waluk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: madlinguistics
> > > To: Nostratica@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:36 PM
> > > Subject: [Nostratica] basic info on nostratic
> > >
> > >
> > > your link doesn't work. is there any other sites or

links you

> have
> > that
> > > have the basic information about nostratic for people new

to the

> > study?
> > > is there anyone here who has studied much the connections
> > between
> > > the altaic and the amerindian famailes? Im doing so, and

the

> > grammar
> > > of quechua, hopi, and turkish are nearly identical. any

info on

> that
> > let
> > > me know.
> > >
> > >
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