John wrote:
Polat Kaya wrote

>   Polat Kaya:  Sumerian NINHURSAG would be the Turkish "NINE HURI
> SAG" meaning "The grandmother of living women".  I have said many
> times in this forum that Sumerian is alive in Turkish.

That is interesting because Hursag is Sumerian Emegir for "Mountain"
and Nin is Sumerian Emegir for "Woman" or more properly "Queen". 
Ninhursag's name is a title which means "Queen of the Mountain".
Turkic kIr was originally "an isolated block of mountains" (Clauson), but I think there is
also kur (mountain) which shows up in one Semitic language but could be Sumerian.

So when you write

> Huri is Arabid, no?  let's see nine=grandmother, sag=alive, that
> leaves huri=women. Is that supposed to be cognate of Turkic kari?
> That would then make it cognate with katin (th>dh>r) which is
> possible.

And how many angels did you say could dance on the point of a pin?

> Additionally, what John calls "PIE *ister (for English star)" is
> actually from Turkish IShITIR meaning a) "It is light" i.e., what
> the English call STAR, and b) "It lights up" like what the Sun
> does.  In other words, the actual source is Turkish - not the
> hypothetical language so-called NOSTRATIC. This is not too far off
> because Akkadian has ISHITU (fire?) which is easily linked to light
> and hence to star.  But if we were to take it more seriously I'd
> have to say that the -tir is not "it is". It would be from -tith > -
> tidh> -tir like -tith> tiw =tu.  That is OK since this morphology
> exists even today in KBal e.g. keliw/keluw vs Turkish gelish.
> Turkish "BABA" is from the ancient Turkish word "APA-APA" meaning
> "father's father" (i.e., grandfather) which reduced in time
> to "PAPA" and then to "BABA".  The name "PAPA" for "POPE" also
> comes from this Turkish word "PAPA" (BABA).

It is interesting that both Pope and Papa come from the
Greek "pappas" for father.  What happened to the *-s?

Polat finished

> Baba is Arabic but Turkic has ata, atta, appa, akka, etc for
> father.  It also has words like akay, eke, eket, egech etc for
> relatives including sister, brother etc.  I already related these to
> Akkadian ehatu, ehassu, Luwin negash etc via *nekathu(m). All of
> these including words like katin (woman), kari  can be derived from
> it.

Oh I see, a whole army can fit on this pin!



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