John,
I simply abhore George Bernard Shaw. He's simply a tragedy.

Gerry


--- In Nostratica@yahoogroups.com, "John <jdcroft@...>"
<jdcroft@...> wrote:

> Gerry asked
>
> > And is the English flag called the Cross of St.
> > George or has it subsequently also been labeled the Union Jack?
> > After all, England is a member of the United Kingdom, isn't it?
> > Methinks even history is ajumble.
>
> Gerry the Cross of St George is only used to represent England. It
> is flown in Scotland, only when England is being represented, and

so

> is not in any way a flag of the Union of the United Kingdom. It
> would be like the Flag of Texas being flown in Arkansas to

represent

> Texas there. The Flag of Texas also is in no way called "Old

Glory".

>
> History is only a jumble, unfortunately to people who have very
> little. Given the current world state, perhaps we could remember

To

> Hegel's dictum of how for the historically ignorant that `history
> always repeats itself' Karl Marx sardonically added the
> observation, `the first time as tragedy, the second time as

farce'.

> In the context of the Persian Gulf today it might be apposite to
> suggest a further variation: that history always repeats itself —

the

> first time as tragedy, the second time as even greater tragedy. Or
> perhaps given the stupidity about to be unleashed there, "We learn
> from history that we learn nothing from history…" - George Bernard
> Shaw.
>
> Regards
>
> John