Re: IE thematic wovels

--- In nostratic@..., "Glen Gordon" <glengordon01@...> wrote:

>
> Similarly, in verbs, the vocalism of the present of MIE *ber-
> (and most other present stems) is *e. Thus, the vowel *e should
> also be carried into the entire conjugation, producing *beré-mes
> in the 1pp. This produced Early Late IE *bherémes, but the
> recent thematic regularization of accent then produced *bhéremes.
> Finally, the thematic vowel was rounded to *o in *bheromes and
> *bheront. Anyways, as I say, the penultimate accent DID protect
> the thematic vowel.
>
> I've stated this before but here's the summary of the relevant
> changes in order of occurence:
>
> Mid IE
> - paradigmatic vocalism rule in effect
> - thematic *-e- spreads by analogy with 3ps *-e
> into the 1pp and 2pp active conjugation
> - postpositional demonstrative *ta (*to) begins to
> be used in 3ps (*bére "he carries" > *bére ta)
> - loss of final vowels
>
> - love gLeN
>
> Hi,

Glen

As I said before, I think this is a good explanation for the thematic
wovel in verbs.


An important point here is: A wovel was protected from being lost in
the zero-grade pocess.

And my point is simply, why could not the same be true about nouns?
Why could it not have been stress patterns that allways protected the
second wovel of the root?

Therefor I propose something like this:

Acc: *welqwèm > *wlqwèm
Gen: *welqwèse> *wlqwès

This prosess produced homonymity between nosg, gensg, and possible
also nompl. In order to repair this, the genitive was extended by a
pronominal elements, and endings were transfered from the pronominal
declention also elsewere (nompl, ablsg). In my modell the vocsg is
simply the stem without any other ending than the thematic wovel.
Later on e was rounded to o in most forms, and the stress was also
shifted to the initial syllable in many thematic nouns.

I propose this simply because I am not satisfied by the other
explanations.

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