Re: Proposal of a name for a possible family

What you and Bomhard propose is:

-Afro-Asiatic

-Kartvelian

-Elamite-Darvidian

-Sumerian

-Eurasiatic

Question: Cannot Afro-Asiatic and Eurasiatic combine to produce Afro-Eurasiatic?

Thusly:

-Afro-Eurasiatic

-Kartvelian

-Elamite-Dravidian

-Sumerian

Your analogy of language classification to a cracked windshield is good. Alekseev always said that all languages are related even at the earliest of dates. And why is Sumerian in a category all by itself? Isn't it related to Elamite-Dravidian?

Gerry

----- Original Message -----

From: Danny Wier

To: nostratic@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 2:55 PM

Subject: Re: [nostratic] Proposal of a name for a possible family

Something like that. Another grouping based on Bomhard with some of my own ideas:

Afro-Asiatic

  North (Hamito-Semitic)

    Semitic

    Egyptian

    Berber

South (Cushito-Chadic)

    Cushitic

    Omotic

    Chadic

Kartvelian (aka South Caucasian: Georgian, Mingrelian, Svan and Laz)

Elamite-Dravidian

Elamite

Indus Valley

  North D. (inc. Brahui)

  Central D.

South-Central D. (inc. Telugu)

  South D. (inc. Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada)

Sumerian (possibly closer to Elamite-Dravidian)

Eurasiatic

Indo-European

    Anatolian (Hittite and Luwian)

    European Centum

      Celtic

      Italic

      Greek

      Germanic

      Tocharian

    European Satem

      Baltic

      Slavonic

      Albanian

      Armenian

    Indo-Iranian

      Iranian

      Indic (or Indo-Aryan)

Uralic-Yukaghir

    Finno-Ugric

      Finnic (Finnish, Estonian, Karelian etc.)

      Ugric (Hungarian, Ostyak, Mansi)

      Sámi (or Lappish)

    Samoyed (Nenets, Ngagasan etc.)

    Yukaghir

Altaic

    Turkic

    Mongolian

    Tungusic

"Boreanesian" (possibly closer to Altaic)

    Japanese-Ryukyuan

    Korean

    Gilyak (Nivkh)

    ? Ainu

"Arctic" or "Sibero-American"

    Chukchi-Kamchatkan

      Chukchi (inc. Koryak-Kerek-Alyutor)

      Kamchadal (or Itelmen)

    Eskimo-Aleut

      Yupik (Alaskan and Siberian)

      Inuktitut (inc. Greenlandic)

      Aleut

Remember, the Boreanesian and Arctic proposals are my own speculation. The former is mainly a lumping together of "leftovers" more or less linked with Altaic or whatever.

In the past, I had divided Nostratic into West Nostratic (AA, IE, Kart.) and East Nostratic (Ural., Alt., Drav.), but that would break up Eurasiatic, which has a strong case as it has been proposed by both Greenberg and Bomhard.

Note that I see language classification not as family trees, but as radiating lines from a common origin, a lot like a crack in a windshield.

~DaW~

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerry Reinhart-Waller

To: nostratic@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, 22 September, 2001 12:44

Subject: Re: [nostratic] Proposal of a name for a possible family

Sounds impressive. Does this now imply a Nostratic Mega Family has been determined? V. Alekseev based on Illich-Svitych proposed:

Nostratic Mega Family

- Indo-European

- Semitic

-Kartvelian

-Dravidian

-Uralo-Altaic

-Yuhaghirian

-Semitic (Cushitic)

Gerry

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