> ----- Original Message -----from
> From: tgpedersen@...
> To: nostratic@...
> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:56 PM
> Subject: [nostratic] Re: ouralique et IE
>
>
> Proto-Bantu-X+ *-mó *-bàdé *-tátò *-nà *-táánò
>
> That is not the "proto-language". It is Proto-Bantu. Bantu is part
> of the Niger-Congo languages.
>
> You did say in an earlier posting that the -r- might be derived
> a -t-. I don't think that qualifies as an "explanation"
>
> Torsten
--- In nostratic@..., "Piotr Gasiorowski" <gpiotr@...> wrote:
> I wish I knew what you're driving at, Torsten. Intervocalic t > d >
r is a common change, while r > t is not, so if you find, say, <tata>
and <tara> in related languages, <tata> is a priori more likely to be
the older form. Would you like to suggest that in pre-Proto-Bantu
Niger-Congo languages there was something like *tVrV for "three"?
Please give some evidence to justify such a reconstruction.
Southern
Limba funti tai tr'atr'at tanno taso hi tasohunte tasontai
tasontr'atr'at tasontano kof
Kru
Aizi ishi ita b`o
Seme dyo ni~ tyar yu~ro kwe~ kpaa kyii pre kal fu
Bete bolo so ta mona gbi gbopolo gbiso gbota gbomona kuba
Godie b`o2lo1 soo1 taa2 muu3nu2 u~3gbI2 u~3gbI2
plI2 u~3gboo23
so1 u~3gbaa23
tu2 pee3nu2 ku1gbu2
Dida Blò so| ta_ mùòna_ gbi| gbi|fló gbùósó gbo|fóta| e_nu_gbíèno_
kúgbá
Bakwe lo so ta hyi~ hwu hwukrolo hwuso hwuta wunyi~ epu
Grebo do sõ tã he~ hmu hmunedo hmunesõ m'leta spado pwe
Tepowi (Kruman) do2 ho,1 ta2 he,3 Mm21 hwono3 nepata nepaho, seredo
pu3
Kru do sõ tã nyie mu nmlendo nmleso nmleta sepado pue
Basa do sã ta hyi~ mu bedo besã beta behyi~ blabwe
Dewoin gbo sõ tã nhyi~ nhm hmlegbo hmlesõ hmletã hmlenhyi~ vu
Wobé to4o5 sõõ2 tãã3 nye3 m4m2 me4e1o4 me41sõ2 me41na3 me41nye3 puue4
Senufo-Tusya
Senari nenke~ shüni tãre shikyer kaguro gbani gbarsüni kezeme
nenkoenna? ke
Nafana (Palera) nunu shiin taare jijire kuno koonanu koonashin
koonatare koonajire ke
Palaka wunigbã wushyi~ wutãre wurik yere wapa wokoronu wokoro-shyi~
wokoro-tãre wokoro-kyere okere
Karaboro no_ni shin ta_r tihyer bwo klon kloshin ko-tar wodefir
sinkil
Viemo duunde niini saasi juumi kwege kõnuura kõniise juumico niini
kõmedifero koomo
Wara puwo bo tí~ naaso susu sinepo sineto sinti~ sinnaaso kãsá
Natioro puwolo indi tã naa susu zaba tendi nãganãga kawom pua
Suppire nìngkìn shùùnnì tàànrè sìcyèèrè kangkuro baa-nì baa-shùùnnì
baa-tàànrè baa-rìcyèèrè ke
Mianka nini shyu~ni tãre shishyere kaguro gbani gbarshyu~ id gbatãre
gbarshishyere ke
Dyimini nugbã shyi~ tãre tigyere kãguru go korholo-nu korho-shyi~
korho-tãre korho-gyere ke
Tagbana nono shi~ tãrã tikyere kõgunõ nulu nashi~ natãre nakyere ke
Degha (Mo) kpe ni~ tolo nãre nume mbele nni~ ntolo nnãre fi
Adamawa
Kam bImbini ira tshar nar ngwan dzhoup dzhubira sal angjeza buu
And I just got started
Torsten