Thank you Brian that 's that straightened
Kveðja
Patricia
exactly what I was trying to express 
but you "said it better" besides - I'm out of practice
and the spelling of  fricative was an issue at the time
-------Original Message-------
 
Date: 27/06/2009 08:28:59
Subject: Re[2]: [norse_course] Re: Old norse for family?
 
At 1:38:30 AM on Saturday, June 27, 2009, Paul David Hansen wrote:
 
> Actually, the 'th' sound in 'these', 'them', 'those',
> 'think', 'thought' and 'theory' are all the same: 'þ'.
 
No, they are not the same: <these>, <them>, and <those> have
the voiced fricative, <ð>, and <think>, <thought>, and
<theory> have the voiceless fricative, <þ>.
 
> The 'ð' sound is the 'th' sound in 'bath' and 'with, etc.
 
<Bath> has the voiceless fricative, <þ>; it's the verb
<bathe> that has the <ð> sound.  <With> can have either:
some speakers consistently use <þ>, so that it rhymes with
<myth>, some consistently use <ð>, and some use both at
different times.
 
Brian
 
 
 
 
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