From: Haukur Þorgeirsson
Message: 8610
Date: 2007-10-04
> Thanks for extra detail, Haukur! I hope I got the rest of
> pronunciation stuff more or less right...
>
> So, it's gone from 'hald' to 'halt' by the final devoicing rule (as in
> 'band' > 'batt', etc.), then back to 'hald' (in theory [
> http://www.lexis.hi.is/beygingarlysing/so/sb/halda.html ]) by analogy
> with forms where 'd' remained, then back to 'halt þú' by analogy with
> 'haltu'?
>
>> In practice I think most people would in fact say "Nei,
>> ég vil ekki halda vörð - halt þú vörð."
>
> You have to watch out you don't accidentally start off any major world
> religions with that sort of attitude :-)
>
>> "Nei, ég vil ekki fara' út í búð. Farð þú."
>
> Interesting... We met with a similar phenomenon in the last section
> of Njáls saga we looked at: the modern 2nd person indicative 'þú
> sérð', as opposed to the older 'þú sér'.
>
> LN
>
>
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, Haukur Þorgeirsson <haukurth@...>
> wrote:
>>
>> > Also, the (simple / unsuffixed) regular imperative singular of 'halda'
>> > was 'halt' in Old Norse, although Modern Icelandic has replaced this
>> > with 'hald' by analogy with other parts of the conjugation.
>>
>> In theory maybe. In practice I think most people would in fact say "Nei,
>> ég vil ekki halda vörð - halt þú vörð." I use an example like this
> because
>> the unsuffixed singular imperative is almost exclusively used when a
>> strong emphasis is on the pronoun. The pronoun understandably
> doesn't like
>> to become a suffix when it's emphasized. Nevertheless the imperative
> form
>> is most familiar in the suffixed form so will tend to retain whatever
>> changes the suffix has wrought on it even when the pronoun reasserts
>> itself.
>>
>> Similarly one would say:
>>
>> "Nei, ég vil ekki fara' út í búð. Farð þú."
>>
>> "Nei, ég nenni' ekki' að koma til þín í kvöld. Komd (kond) þú til mín."
>>
>> (Well, *I* might say "far þú" and "kom þú" but I think that is probably
>> hyper-correct or bookish.)
>>
>> Kveðja,
>> Haukur
>
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