Thank you so much LN for this -
or blast - "on the air " was a typo (- not it was honestly)
I am glad to see "aloft" I wanted to use it but thought of trying to be literal
not elegant
Born in Portsmouth and lived there many years - the "Naval Expressions"
oddities like aboard, alongside etc - hauled the Anchor p come from a
Grand-dad who was dearly loved and they stick in the mind
Yes - a certain man expresses it better - I read on - and it looks like
he will be useful to them so he is a "certain sort of person"
I reckon from your notes here that I should study Gordon more - I have
gotten into the habit of going back to the New Old Norse of Barnes & Co
more user friendly they are !!
Glad I got fela right - I shall read as you advise - the P71 of Gordon
That bit at the end - I shall have to watch my superlatives I see the mistake
most clearly
I hope this reply comes through clearly - I like incredimail for sending
but they are acting up a bit
Many thanks for you time here
Kveðja
Patricia
-------Original Message-------
From: llama_nom
Date: 29/10/2006 17:33:02
Subject: [norse_course] Re: Njall Ch 30 part 3 Patricia's effort > hljópu upp á skip þeirra VandilsOr literally "leapt/ran up onto the ship of Vandil and his brother / and his men" -- see Alan's comments on Grace's translation. > Í móti Gunnari gekk VandillYes, V. went towards or against G. as the case endings show. > og sýndist hinum þrjú vera sverðin á loftiair Yes, or I would say "in the air", or more in more literary style "aloft". > Þeir sáu mann einn gangahere) from off the Headland Good question. My first thought was to read it as just "a man", "some (unspecified) man", "a certain man" = mann nökkurn, nökkurn mann -- though with the implication that he's alone since no one else is mantioned -- and maybe also because he's telling dangerous secrets. But then maybe it is "they saw a man walking *alone* down from the headland". That's how MM & HP seem take it anyway, or at least they include the word "alone". I'm not sure whether it's possible to rule out either possibility, or if one is preferable, or if anything can be deduced from the word order...? > hverjir fyrir ráða.Yes, with "them" understood. > hidden (folgið- ? fela)That's right. 4th conjugation strong verb, see Gordon section 130. fela: fal, fálu, fólginn (folginn before c. 1200). In Proto-Norse, the infinitive would have been *felhan (=Gothic 'filhan'), but the 'h' was lost by Old Norse times. For the grisly details of how 'h' turned into 'g' in the past participle, see Gordon section 71 "voicing". > ella búist þér við sem skjótast."or else get ready as quickly as possible". búask við "get ready, prepare oneself", with "for battle" or "to meet them (in battle)" implied. 'sem' + a superlative adjective = "as ... as possible". | |||
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