Re: skjöldur véla

Hi

From Skildi (Dat) we talk aboult Skjöld {acc.) So is the name is
Skjöld-ur (nom). We point to (Skjald-ar or) Skjöld-ss (gen. form)

In plural Here are Skild-ir (nom) we talk about Skild-i we say them
Skjöld-um (Dat) and we refer to Skjald-a (Gen.)

I know Skjöldur Skýlir gives shelter or protects.

We match Mær with Skjald(-a): Skjald-Mær.

Brögð plural from Bragð.
Has two major meanings. eitt Bragð is taste as flavor. verb: Bragða.
Bragð is (trick) scheme, deed as wrestling (see fangabrögð = glíma)
verb Bregða: to stumble or to startle.

Vél connected to brain as I have no example of that dead bodies can
vélað in the meaning deceive: A Man can véla innocent girl.
Vél they are also name for bird's tail that points to other bird's
brain. Vèl before spelled vjel. I reckon related to "vell" well.
Hvel of brain are its cavites. If H is of Hvel you have vel.

je rimes with yeah spelld today é. J is to be enlightener when í
comes consonat. í sounds as latin i, but as ee in english.
í means into or inside it is comparable to a pointer or as they said
an enlightener. If you take j out of vjel then you get vell (well).
vjel and vell have equal measure [metric). My speculations.

beita vélum skjalda

is to use "vél" of Shields.

We also connect ráð {advise) og vél that is vélráð : deceiving
advise.

Uoden

--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia"
<originalpatricia@...> wrote:

>
> I thought about that too and supposed that Skjöldur is a verb = to

shield/protect, but I certainly am sure of Skjalda is the Item - a
shield because it occurs to the best of my knowledge and belief in
the word

> Skjald-mær shield maid one of these Amazon types hope this helps
> Kveðja
> Patricia
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Victor Hansen
> To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 9:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [norse_course] Re: skjöldur véla
>
>
> thankyou for your reply. The information is much appreciated.
>
> Can I ask what is Brögð?
>
> Also, why is there the different spelling of shield - skjöldur

and Skjalda?

>
> May I ask why you have the understanding that Vél means the

brain? This means different definitions to Zoega.

>
> beita vélum skjalda - would this make sense?
>
> Regards.
>
>
> Blanc Voden <uoden@...> wrote:
> This is a tough task.
>
> But SkjaldaSpillir or SpillirSkjalda refers to it that spoils
> shields.
>
> Uoden
>
> beita [use] VélaBrögð [Véla's tricks] means as I understand it

> manipulate or deceive one's mind. I have very strong feeling

that

> the Vél is the brain. Véla like to hypnotize, captivate
>
>
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, Victor Hansen
> <victor_akl_nz@> wrote:
> >
> > Thats interesting, as it wasnt the message that I intended

> convey. My thought was more along the line of an object or

weapon

> that would decieve an opponents shield. Thanks for your reply,

> never thought of it in that sense.
> >
> > So let me have another go at this - if it was a weapon

that was

> being deceptive to an opponent is should be structured

as "[insert

> weapon]" "véla" to be more specific if it was a weapon that

decieved

> shields it would be structured "[insert
> weapon]" "véla" "skjöldur" ????
> >
> > I am quite enjoying trying to work this out.
> >
> > Blanc Voden <uoden@> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I understand that "skjöldur véla"
> > Is a shield that plays with my brain in deceiving way: lucky

for

> its
> > carrier/owner.
> >
> > Uoden
> > Icelander
> >
> > --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, Victor Hansen
> > <victor_akl_nz@> wrote:
> > >
> > > skjöldur véla
> > >
> > > I'd just like to run this past a few ppl here to make

sure I

> am
> > on the right track. I am looking for something close

to 'shield

> > deciever.' véla was the closest I could find so maybe its

closer

> > to 'shield tricker' or 'shield betrayer'? Just to confirm

this

> makes
> > sense, thanks.
> > >
> > > ps xigung thankyou for your earlier reply.
> > >
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