Further to my previous e.mail LM
 
Firstly in the Complete Sagas of the Icelanders, the tale of Sarcastic Halli was translated by one  George Clark 
And I will quote the part at the beginning of Chapter Seven
There was a man called Einar who was nicknamed Fly, he was the son of Harek from Thjota. He was a landholder and the Kings envoy to Halagoland; he had the sole right to collect the King's tribute from the Lapps. At this time he was on very good terms with the King, though their relationship had its ups and downs.
Einar was not at all straightforward. He killed men even if they did not do everything that he wanted, and paid compensation for no man
 
Rather a weak comparison, Einar's tendency to being
 
"Honum var allt illa gefit, "    I think he's a thoroughly bad type - not to be trusted 
 
Kveðja
Patricia 

 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Patricia
To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [norse_course] Honum var allt illa gefit, er honum var sjálfrátt.

Sael LN,
As I have already said - happy to help - my Translations are from Iceland  called the complete Sagas of the Icelanders and the people who work on it are many and various,
 
http://notendur.centrum.is/~vinland/
 
 I keep this precious set of Five beautifully bound volumes on the top shelf of my bookcase in a slip case of their own, so that I shall not be tempted to use them when translating, as I feel that would be counter-productive. When you read them the translator's name appears along of the Title.
I take great care of my books, not merely because they are expensive, and I bought them - and many others in a fit of total self-indulgence, but I have the same respect for the battered old Latin Dictionary I use, and I'm afraid I never Lend
Bless
Patricia
----- Original Message -----
From: llama_nom
To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2005 4:32 AM
Subject: [norse_course] Honum var allt illa gefit, er honum var sjálfrátt.


Got it!  Attention all: I was wrong about the second part of this. 
But the good news is, I´ve found the key!  (Yes, like Loki with the
Æsir, I get you into trouble and get you out of it...)  The Rosette
Stone turns out to be a descrition of Queen Kormlöð in ch. 154 of
Njáls saga.

Hon var allra kvenna fegrst ok bezt at sér orðin um þat allt er
henni var ósjálfrátt en þat er mál manna at henni hafi allt verit
illa gefit þat er henni var sjálfrátt.

Hermann Pálsson and Magnús Magnússon translate:

"she was endowed with great beauty and all those attributes which
were outside her own control, but it is said that in all the
characteristics for which she herself was responsible, she was
utterly wicked."

This sounds slightly odd as if there´s something missing to tell us
how she was with regard to all the attributes outside her control,
but Dasent obliges:

"she was the fairest of all women, and best gifted in everything
that was not in her own power, but it was the talk of men that she
did all things ill over which she had any power."

Thanks for locating those other sagas, Patricia.  If you want to
have a go at tracking down the exact quote, type "illa gefið" into
Google and check the first couple of hits.  I don´t know if your
translations have the same chapter numbering as these online texts
(if not, look out for a bit where Halli goes to claim compensation
for his brother Einarr from a certain ill-given jarl, also called
Einarr).  By the way, is your Sarcastic Halli taken from they
Flateyjarbók version?  There´s another version in Morkinskinna, you
see, which I think doesn´t have the phrase we´re interested in.

LN