Re: Gunnarsslagr - Gunnar's Melody

--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, Haukur Þorgeirsson
<haukurth@...> wrote:

> The word is spelled "hlær" in the 1818 edition and that's all I

have. An

> emendation to "hlœgir" would make the line uncomfortably long.

Yeah, I checked the Saganet link. Metre-wise, if you could get rid
of Atli (no mean feat, that), I guess you could have some variant of
the traditional:

Hitt hloegir mik (Útsteinn, in Hálfs saga ok Hálfsrekka)
Hugr hloegir mik (priestess to Arrow-Oddr)
Þat hloegir mik (various)

But I suppose there´s an argument for respecting the intentions of
the 18th century author. Hey, that reminds me. Didn´t you once say
something about alliterative syllables not coming next to each
other? 'vinr víkinga' is another. Or was that more of a skaldic
convention?

skalk hvessa þrek, þessum
(þat hlægir mik) bæjar.

Sturla Þórðarson
[ http://www.hi.is/~eybjorn/ugm/skindex/stu8.html ].

> It means "manly" or "strong" in Faroese.

Well, there are Faroese ballads relating to characters in Hervarar
saga, although I´ve heard that these traditions are supposed to be
based on an early printed edition.

>
>
> > Isn't S- D's "Hiding it avails thee not"
> > better for `dugira þér at leyna' than the
> > Old Norse Online suggestion: "It is not
> > fitting for you to hide it"?
>
> Again, I agree. The latter would be a good translation of "sœmira".

They definitely intend it to translate DUGIRA: "Dugira -- verb; 3rd
singular present of <duga> help, aid, be of avail, be of assisstance
+ enclitic adverb; <a> not -- It is not fitting" [
http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/lrc/eieol/norol-8-X.html ].

> Well, Voldemort is this evil snake-loving wizard bloke who's

supposed to

> be impossible to kill and extremely powerful - yet is thwarted by
> schoolchildren every spring. Atli and his cronies managed to off

two of

> the biggest heroes in the mythos - even if Högni and Gunnarr got

in a

> couple of last laughs.

Jörmukrekkr is pretty mean too. I bet Aðils was once, but by the
15th century, or whenever Hrólfs saga kraka is from, he´s already
displaying suspiciously Voldemortish tendencies of inneffectual
wizardry, vanishing up hollow trees, and so forth.



--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Patricia"
<originalpatricia@...> wrote:

> (Thinks: Am I the only person in
> Miðgarðr not to have read a single Harry Potter book? There,

I've admitted it

>
> No LN - bless - here's another one

Phew! Thanks Patricia. So nice to know I'm not alone...

Llama Nom