Sæl Patricia.

Comments inserted as usual. I don´t have all the answers on the verse. See my translation for additional comments and queries. Perhaps an expert can help us out here.

Kveðja

Alan

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Saell Alan

I don't know about this here poetry at all, I thought there were kennings and stuff I had not seen before:-

Þá var Kali fimtán vetra er hann fór með kaupmönnum  vestr til Englands, ok hafði góðan kaupeyri.

Then was Kali fifteen winters when he travelled with Merchants (?dat.pl Kaupmaðr) west to England

Kali was fifteen years old when he travelled in the company of merchants - west, to England

ok hafði góðan kaupeyri Þeir heldu til  þess kaupstaðar er Grímsbœr heitir.

and had goods to trade (or barter) [literally: good trading-wares (sg)]  they held on till this [that, gen of sá] market town which Grimsby is named

and they had goods to trade.  They held on till they reached Grimsby a market town

 Kom þar mikit fjöl-  menni bæði af Nóregi ok Orkneyjum, af Skotlandi ok Suðreyjum

came there (in that place) a great crowd of men both from Norway and the Orkneys from Scotland and the Hebrides

There were a great crowd of men from Norway, the Orkneys, Scotland and the Hebrides

Eptir þat fór Kali vestan á hinu sama skipi ok  kómu útan at Ögðum ok heldu þaðan til Björgynjar. Þá  kvað hann vísu:

After this [that] travelled Kali from the West  in his [the] same ship and came back round at Ogðum [gen of Agðir],  and held thence till Bergen then said he a verse

Afterwards Kali travelled from the West on the same ship and turned around at Ogðum and held on from there till they reached Bergen he then recited a Verse

'Vér höfum vaðnar leirur 

we have passed through mudflats (leira)

We have waded ? through mudflats

vikur fimm megingrimmar; saurs vara vant, er várum, viðr, í Grímsbœ miðjum

Five weeks most terrible, mud/filth [gen] (were accustomed) which [when] we were with in the middle of Grimsby [see my translation notes/questions for my concerns about this line in the text]

Five most terrible weeks were accustomed to mud ('Filth) when in the centre of Grimsby

 Nú'r þat's más of mýrar meginkátliga látum  branda elg á bylgjur  Björgynjar til dynja

Now Ye (nu er) [see my translation notes/questions for my concerns about this line in the text but I don’t think ’r  is the personal pronoun] those seabirds (mer -mas) over (mýrar) [moors, acc pl] most joyfully noise beaked ship to the billows  Bergen to resound [see my translation]

Now ye (seabirds ?)  seabirds over (myrar), with joyful cries put the Beaked Ship to the Billows and let Bergen resound

I do not feel I get this, he's using kennings calling the men (?jokingly) Seabirds and telling them they are off home for they have been successful they can rattle Bergen with joyful cries.

Thats how I see it, but it's poetry Alan

Kveðja

Patricia

(WHEW)
 

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Subject: RE: [norse_course] Miscellanea Section L Subsection (i)

 

Sæl

 

This week we continue Section L from Gordon´s Miscellanea. As mentioned last week, the text is from Orkneyinga saga, Subsection (iii) will follow next week.

 

Kveðja

Alan

 

Verses by Earl Rögnvald Kali

(ii) Rögnvald at Grimsby

Þá var Kali fimtán vetra er hann fór með kaupmönnum  vestr til Englands, ok hafði góðan kaupeyri. Þeir heldu til  þess kaupstaðar er Grímsbœr heitir. Kom þar mikit fjöl-  menni bæði af Nóregi ok Orkneyjum, af Skotlandi ok Suðreyjum. Eptir þat fór Kali vestan á hinu sama skipi ok  kómu útan at Ögðum ok heldu þaðan til Björgynjar. Þá  kvað hann vísu:

'Vér höfum vaðnar leirur 

vikur fimm megingrimmar;

saurs vara vant, er várum,

viðr, í Grímsbœ miðjum. 

Nú'r þat's más of mýrar

meginkátliga látum 

branda elg á bylgjur 

Björgynjar til dynja.'

 

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