Re: [norse_course] Auðun - 6/ feedback Patricia

Sæl Patricia!

Thanks for the colours - that makes it easier for me with the cutting and pasting!

You´re really getting the hang of this nicely, only one or two comments I can usefully make...

Hann ferr nú, siðan, suðr með landi

He went now his way south along the lands

He travelled / made his way southwards along the coast

we need to include "síðan" into the English - it has a number of possible translations but in this context means "further" - he now made his way further south

Like you, I thought "með landi" meant following the coast but apparently here it is "by land" or "over land". If someone can give me a convincing argument that this is incorrect, please do and I´ll discuss it with my lecturer :-)

"í Vík austr" could perhaps be expressed as "eastwards to Vik"

ok er þá uppi jverr penningr fjarins ok

and *() then used which coinage for trasvel and

and he had used the money he had kept for travel

literally: and when then used up every coin of money

or more colloquially: and then when every last penny of his money was gone

verðr hann þá biðja matar bæði Fyrir sik og fyrir dýrit

worth he that begged provision both given him and given bear

(food?) he then begged for provisions for himself and the bear

Yes, he did have to beg for food - matar (in the genitive thanks to the verb biðja). I think maybe "verðr" threw you. In its infinitive form it is verða and in this context it means he has to beg.

Hann kømr á fund ármanns Sveins konungrs þess er Aki het

he came to meet King Swein's steward, a man Aki named

he happened to meet king Sweins steward a man called Aki

Pretty much so. Literally: he comes to a meeting of a steward of king Svein i.e. He meets him. I don´t think the Old Norse conveys the sense of unexpected chance which the English does with "he happened to..."

ok bað hann vista nakkvarra bæði fyrir sik og fyrir dýrit

and asked he lodge somewhere begged food for him and bear

and asked for a place to stay, begging food for himself and his bear

Literally: and asked him for some (nakkvarra) food/lodging some both for himself and for the animal

Well done indeed!

Kveðja,

Sarah.

----- Original Message -----

From: Patricia

To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 10:56 PM

Subject: Re: [norse_course] Auðun - 6

Auðun part 6

Hann ferr nú, siðan, suð með landi

He went now his way south along the lands

He travelled / made his way southwards along the coast

ok i Vik austr ok þa til Danmerkr

and the Vik east amd then? to Denmark

and Vik in the east thence to Denmark

ok er þá uppi jverr penningr fjarins ok

and *() then used which coinage for trasvel and

and he had used the money he had kept for travel

verðr hann þá biðja matar bæði Fyrir sik og fyrir dýrit

worth he that begged provision both given him and given bear

(food?) he then begged for provisions for himself and the bear

Hann kømr á fund ármanns Sveins konungrs þess er Aki het

he came to meet King Swein's steward, a man Aki named

he happened to meet king Sweins steward a man called Aki

ok bað hann vista nakkvarra bæði fyrir sik og fyrir dýrit

and asked he lodge somewhere begged food for him and bear

and asked for a place to stay, begging food for himself and his bear

"ek ætla" segir hann "at gefa Sveini konungi dýrit

I plan     say he         to give King Swein this animal

"I plan " said he    to give King Swein this bear

When they said Bjarndýrit in the beginning I could see from bjarn it was a bear, but when they put dýrit I see that as animal, as if every four legged item is a dýrit, nevertheless, I seem to be getting to grips with it, I think I've done OK, hope so

Patricia

With Thanks

when I get those books I'll let you know, for I shall hopefully do better.

----- Original Message -----

From: Sarah Bowen

To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:47 PM

Subject: [norse_course] Auðun - 6

Here comes the next installment! Enjoy :-)

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Hann ferr nú síðan suðr með landi ok í Vík austr ok þá til Danmerkr, ok er þá uppi hverr penningr fjárins, ok verðr hann þá biðja matar bæði fyrir sik og fyrir dýrit. Hann kømr á fund ármanns Sveins konungs, þess er Áki hét, ok bað hann vista nakkvarra bæði fyrir sik og fyrir dýrit: "ek ætla" segir hann, "at gefa Sveini konungi dýrit."

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