Sarah and Haukur

 

Thanks for your comments, but before we leave the question of “eptir” behind J, I ask you to look at the following three constructions and tell me if you think they are all grammatically correct and if they each have the same meaning.

 

ok of vetrinn eptir var Auðun með Þóri stýrimanni

ok var Auðun með Þóri stýrimanni of vetrinn eptir

ok var Auðun of vetrinn eptir með Þóri stýrimanni

 

or to approach it from a different angle, would an Icelander be likely to say “ég er með einhverjum’ to mean “I am with somebody” or would normally she say something different?

 

Cheers

Alan

 

 

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Sarah

 

I’m tardy again with my translation. Thankyou for your comments on “útan vestr þar í fjörðum”. While you may well be right in your unravelling of the word order, and I can’t think of a better interpretation, it seems that it requires “þar” to be translated as “from there”  for which I would have thought “þaðan” would have been more likely. Cf

“heðan”  in the sentence “Ok nú fara þeir útan heðan…” which begins the 2^nd instalment below. Sometimes it seems to me that the convoluted word order probably had more to do with the short supply of paper and a lack of “white out” or a back-space button: once they had committed a word to their manuscript there was no going backJ

 

Reading your comments to the other translators, while I note that “vera eptir” does mean “remain behind,” what is stopping the “of vetrinn eptir” being employed in exactly the same way as “um sumarit eptir” a few sentences “eptir”?

 

I will try and catch up with everyone else for instalment 3.

 

Alan

 

Ok nú fara þeir útan heðan, ok fersk þeim vel,

And now they journey abroad from here, and (it, the voyage) goes well for them,

 

ok var Auðun of vetrinn eptir með Þóri stýrimanni;

and Auðun was with Þórir, (the) ship’s captain, throughout the following winter.

 

hann átti bú á Moeri. 

He had a farm at Moer.

 

Ok um sumarit eptir fara þeir út til Groenlands,  ok eru þar of vetrinn. 

And in the following summer they journey out to Greenland, and are there over the winter.

 

Þess er við getit, at Auðun kaupir þar bjarndýri eitt, gørsimi mikla,

Of this it is recorded, that Auðun buys there a certain bear, a great treasure,

 

ok gaf fyrir alla eigu sína. 

and gave everything in his possession for it.

 

Ok nú of sumarit eptir fara þeir aptr til Nóregs, ok verða vel reiðfara.

And now, over the following summer, they journey back to Norway, and have a good voyage.

 

 

 

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Sæl!

 

Here is the next section for anyone who wants to join in.  [Dirk, it would be good to hear from you, if you have the time?]  If anyone has not yet done the first section and still wants to, then I´m quite happy for you to post that up sometime and I´ll comment where I can.

 

Kveðja

Sarah

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Ok nú fara þeir útan heðan, ok fersk þeim vel, ok var Auðun of vetrinn eptir með Þóri stýrimanni; hann átti bú á Moeri.  Ok um sumarit eptir fara þeir út til Groenlands, ok eru þar of vetrinn.  Þess er við getit, at Auðun kaupir þar bjarndýri eitt, gørsimi mikla, ok gaf fyrir alla eigu sína.  Ok nú of sumarit eptir fara þeir aptr til Nóregs, ok verða vel reiðfara.

 

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