Yes, the ham with the line was the one I meant. But I don't know how to type
that line (not a normal accent, but a horizontal line), so I didn't.


>From: "xigung" <xigung@...>
>Reply-To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
>To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [norse_course] Re: Jed re Eric Gass and 'ham'
>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:45:24 -0000
>
>Hi Terje,
>There is a place in North Holland called "Sassenheim".
>(in the region where they grow all the tulips, just
>a short distance from the Ocean)
>I have understood this as "the Home of the Saxons".
>Supposedly the Saxons lived there before they went
>across the sea to live in Britain.
>
>Old English does not have "ham" with a plain "a".
>It does however, have "hæm".
>"Stanhæme", for example, means the same as German
>"Steinheimer", and -hæme means a resident or
>a citizen.
>hæmed n. means marriage or sex.
>-hæming m. is also a dweller/resident/denizen.
>hæman is a verb meaning to marry, or to have sex.
>
>There is, however, a word where the "a" has a line
>over it:
>"ham" m. = home, house, dwelling; estate, village.
>I think the line over the "a" means that it is a long vowel.
>
>Best,
>Xigung
>
>
>
>--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "Terje Ellefsen"
><radiorabia@...> wrote:
> > Ham in OE is cognate with the Old Norse "heim", which means home. As
>you can
> > see, heim and ham are similar, but not exactly the same. AFAIK, ham
>excisted
> > in OE before the norsemen came to Britain. Other germanic languages
>also
> > have this word, e.g. modern German Heim. This word is probably very old.
> >
> > Terje
> >
> >
> > >From: "William Calhoun" <kubrick36@...>
> > >Reply-To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > >To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: RE: [norse_course] Jed re Eric Gass and 'ham'
> > >Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:00:59 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > >hamlet:
> > >Etymology: Middle English, from Middle French hamelet, diminutive
>of ham
> > >village, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English hAm village, home
> > >Thanks to Merriam-Webster OnLine
> > >If ham (or rather hamlet) is of Germanic origin than perhaps it did
>come
> > >from Norse to Engl.ish through Middle French. The Norse Vikings
>did indeed
> > >raid medieval France and were the founders of Normandy, where Old Norse
> > >mixed a tiny bit with French (I believe there is a French word for
>'ring'
> > >similar to and rooted in the Old Norse 'baugr'). Normans were
>Norse that
> > >assimilated into French culture. I don't know if that helps!
> > >-Willliam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Gerald Mcharg" <Gerald.Mcharg@...>
> > > >Reply-To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
> > > >To: <norse_course@yahoogroups.com>
> > > >Subject: [norse_course] Jed re Eric Gass and 'ham'
> > > >Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2004 22:55:56 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Eric
> > > >
> > > >I'm not too sure about place-names in 'ham' having a Norse
>derivation.
> > > >
> > > >I believe that 'ham' is one of the earlier place-name elements to be
> > >found
> > > >in Old English charters of the seventh century; 'tons' as a
>rule, occur
> > >in
> > > >later charters.
> > > >If anyone is interested in this, the authorities to consult are
>Joliffe,
> > > >Stenton and Granville.
> > > >
> > > >I haven't really looked at the distribution of 'hams' in Britain,
>so I
> > > >can't say whether they predominate in the north. I do know that they
> > >occur
> > > >far less frequently than the 'ton' settlements and that the
>implications
> > >of
> > > >this could be that they were early administrative or political
>centres
> > >for
> > > >their respective regions.
> > > >
> > > >Anyhow, if there is a chance for an informed discussion on this,
>I would
> > > >like to hear other opinions.
> > > >
> > > >Cheers
> > > >Jed Mc Harg
> > >
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