From: sjuler
Message: 3332
Date: 2003-06-26
--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Bray <dbray@...> wrote:
> Heill Sjuler,
>
> An interesting hypothesis, but I'm 99.9% certain it's Old Irish.
Perhaps
> Simon could give us some context for the reference, that could help
us
> solve this question?
>
> The acute accent is the same as in ON, it indicates a long vowel.
>
> Kveðja,
>
> Dan
>
> sjuler wrote:
>
> >I agree with the fact that AMLÁIB is not Old Norse. But it may be
> >Proto-Norse. Indeed, Old Norse ÓLÁFR comes from Proto-Norse
> >ANULAIBAZ. In accusative we have ANULAIB. This resembles AMLÁIB,
> >doesn't it? If AMLÁIB - or more conveniently written AMLAIBAZ, was
> >Proto-Norse, the Old Norse version would be AMLEIFR, I think. I
don't
> >know what the prefix AM- should refer to, though.
> >
> >If the prefix AM- should really be ARN- (note that 'm' and 'rn'
can
> >be mixed up in some fonts), the Proto-Norse name is ARNLAIBAZ,
which,
> >of course, becomes ARNLEIFR in Old Norse.
> >
> >It should be notes that often the Proto-Norse diphtong AI became
Á,
> >which explains why the Proto-Norse suffices -LAIBAZ, -LAIKAZ etc.
> >became -LÁFR, -LÁKR etc. in ÓLÁFR, ÞORLÁKR etc.
> >
> >One question about Irish: Exactly what does the acute accent ´
mean?
> >In what sense do AMLÁIB and *AMLAIB differ?
> >
> >Sjul ('Victory guardian')
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, Daniel Bray <dbray@...>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Heill Simon,
> >>
> >>Well, the piece you´re reading is wrong. Amláib is not Norse, but
> >>
> >>
> >an Old
> >
> >
> >>Irish approximation of the Norse name Óláfr. In Modern Irish it
> >>
> >>
> >would be
> >
> >
> >>spelled Amhláibh, and a very crude rendering into English
> >>
> >>
> >pronunciation
> >
> >
> >>would be "Owlahv".
> >>
> >>Kveðja,
> >>
> >>Dan
> >>
> >>simonfittonbrown@... wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>Apparently this is another name for Óláfr inn hvíti.
> >>>According to the piece I'm reading, it says it's Norse, but it
> >>>
> >>>
> >doesn't
> >
> >
> >>>look very Norse to me, and would seem to be completely devoid of
> >>>meaning in Old Norse.
> >>>Or is it?
> >>>All the best,
> >>>Simon
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>Daniel Bray
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> Daniel Bray
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> University of Sydney NSW 2006 Australia
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