No - be careful. The representation I gave has to be kept strictly
in context.
Arnold Schwarzenegger says "it doesn't w[ue...]rk that way."
And that [ue...] represented the sound that I'm saying is SOMETHING
like the sound associated with the symbol ø. If you want to use the
word skjótøx, in its written form, within a document for English
speakers, it should be acceptable to use it without any modification
of the symbols as long as you change the font to put it in italics to
indicate its forein origin.
If the SOUND of the thing is troubling you, you should know that the
description is only VERY loosly correct. The English word written as "work",
is better described by "wrk". But there's no vowel - you
say? Well, the letter w serves in that capacity. However, Arney
has no sound in his native language that matches up with the u-like
vowel in our double-u. The best he can do is to say "vuerk" and
clip the v-sound off as best he can - which results ends up with that
[ue..] sound. However, here's the depressing part. That [ue..]
sound would be better represented, within the Old Norse language, by
the symbol y. Now, we are really moving into confusing territory -
particularly when we turn to your original question. For this reason,
as well as others - it may not be such a good idea to mess around
with the symbols used.

Raymond

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Strawson
To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 6/13/2003 3:26 AM
Subject: [norse_course] Re: An answer for Mark Grass

OK, if I follow what's written below, does this mean skjótøx would be
written (very roughly) as "skyohterks" by a native English speaker or
writer?

Regards,

Paul Strawson


sk = [sk] in [sk]ull
j = [y] in [y]ellow
ó = [ow] in [ow]n
for t and x - use what you are accustomed to in daily English speach.

However, ø is the tough one. Yet, we all know a guy by the name of
Arnold Schwarzenegger and he says a great many things in English that
are clearly spoken with his native accent. For instance, he says,
"it doesn't work that way" - but it comes out "it doesn't w[ue...]rk
that way". You see, he simply massacres that o in the word "work"
because he

just can't help it!
Your mission (should you choose to accept it) is to take that ø in
skjótøx'
and just
smear the hell out of it - as if you, yourself, were Mr. Schwarzenegger.
If
you
can get that - then you would be close enough.

If you don't get it right - who really cares! Remember how much Arnold
gets
paid
to totally massacre "standard" British/American pronuciation. No dead
vikings will be
rising up from their graves to question you on your pronunciation or
inappropriate
choices.

Raymond

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Grass
To: norse_course@yahoogroups.com
Sent: 6/10/2003 4:34 PM
Subject: [norse_course] thanks again

Thanks again everyone. Even though so far all I seem
to have managed is start a rather large argument and
just barely got the pronounciation for a name I would
like. As well as be insulted, called a hick, and had
implied that I oughta know some other language just
because I live in America. Well guess what people.
America's official language is english. I live in the
Northeast and thats all they teach up here. We aren't
taught spanish and we aren't taught german. We don't
learn a pile of languages that noone in the area
speaks. I myself am one of the few people who doesn't
work in a wire mill. I may not be the most educated
bloke on the block but I know enough to know I ain't
gonna find out what I need here. Thanks again though.
Snaebjorn Haakonsson



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