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--- "konrad_oddsson <konrad_oddsson@...>"
<konrad_oddsson@...> wrote:

> Heill J�n!
>
> --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com, "jonaegilsen
> <jonaegilsen@...>" <jonaegilsen@...> wrote:
> > Konrad, are you finishing soon? I think this is
> exellent. Also it
> is very interesting. How about more runes? Writing?
> Thank you.
>
> I mailed Haukur a draft for the vowel-system about
> 10 days ago. It
> contains some modifications from the system I tried
> to describe -
> the O-from-U characters are now punctuated inside
> the rune instead
> of to the left side. This is the only substantial
> change. Besides
> this, the punctuation is now in 1/6 rather than 1/4.
> Surprisingly, I
> have received few recommendations after making these
> changes. Work
> and music have been eating up much of my time of
> late, but the rest
> of the system is in the works. Rather than try to
> describe all of
> the details online, I have decided to draw sample
> texts in ON and
> mail them for presentation. The texts will show the
> whole system of
> vowels and consonants. Besides translating them on
> your own, you can
> ask questions and make suggestions about the
> representation of the
> language. Please bare in mind that the samples will
> be drafts for
> the standard printed language - not the cumbersome
> academic variety
> designed to show the whole history from Proto-Norse.
> It is designed
> to be elegant, easily readable, and informative
> about the roots. The
> endings, whether nominal or verbal, are presented
> without history -
> exactly as in ON standardized to the language of the
> earlier skalds.
> As the standard language is the one that truely
> counts, I am trying
> to see to it that the roots are as fairly
> represented as possible. I
> am sure that you will have a lot of questions once
> you see the text.
> Look for a post from Haukur about the vowels after
> he receives them.
> I welcome thoughtful consideration and
> recommendations.
>
> Regards,
> Konrad.
>
>
>
> > --- In norse_course@yahoogroups.com,
> "konrad_oddsson
> > <konrad_oddsson@...>" <konrad_oddsson@...>
> wrote:
> > > The rune �ss will be used for many different Old
> Norse sounds.
> In
> > > this post we will introduce the 4 most simple
> and common of
> these
> > > sounds. Draw a basic �ss-rune. This should
> consist of a single
> > line
> > > drawn from top to bottom between the bars - that
> is to say,
> > between
> > > the long horizontal lines between which the
> runes are written.
> > Your
> > > character should consist of a single line
> between 2 bars. It
> > should
> > > have the appearance of a Latin letter 'I', but
> with both of the
> 2
> > > capital bars extending indefinately to the right
> and left. These
> > are
> > > the 'bars' between which runes are written.
> Remember to space
> your
> > > bars widely enough apart to draw tall and skiny
> runes. The
> > character
> > > thus draw = short I, as in '�istill'. Now place
> a dot 1/4 of the
> > way
> > > down the vertical line from the top. This dot
> should be
> > immeadiately
> > > to the LEFT side of the vertical line. It must
> not be on the
> line,
> > > but beside it. This character = long I (�), as
> in '�sland'.
> Notice
> > > this dot, which elongates the vowel-grade, is
> placed toward the
> > top,
> > > as was also the case with when we elongated
> characters based on
> > the
> > > �r- and �rR-runes. The difference is that the
> dot is placed to
> the
> > > LEFT of the vertical line (which forms the
> �ss-rune).
> > Modifications
> > > of the �ss-rune will always occur to the LEFT
> side of the rune.
> > The
> > > reason is one of elegance and clarity. When
> characters based on
> > the
> > > �ss-rune are combined with a following � or �,
> we do NOT want to
> > see
> > > any dots belonging to the �ss-rune on the right
> side of the
> rune.
> > > This would be confusing and unattractive, as
> both � and � can
> > occur
> > > with dots to the LEFT of their vertical lines.
> Writing IU could
> be
> > > especially confusing, as there might be dots in
> a common space
> > which
> > > belong to either rune and occur outside of
> parameters of the
> runes
> > > proper. Thus, the �ss-rune takes dots only to
> the LEFT of the
> > strait
> > > vertical line. We have now learned how to write
> I and �, which
> are
> > > both inherited from Proto-Norse. Now draw a new
> �ss-rune. Now
> > place
> > > a dot 1/2 of the way down the vertical line from
> the top and on
> > the
> > > LEFT side, which is the only side we will be
> using. This
> character
> > =
> > > natural Proto-Norse E, as in 'ek' (I). This
> character will NOT
> be
> > > used where E is a mutation from Proto-Norse A
> (see previous
> posts
> > > about the �r-rune). In the Proto-Norse period,
> this sound and
> its
> > > elongated grade were both represented by the
> 'M'-rune, which
> stood
> > > for the Latin letter 'E'. To form the long grade
> of this vowel,
> we
> > > will be placing a 2nd dot directly above the 1st
> one and 1/4 of
> > the
> > > way down from the top of the vertical line -
> that is to say, in
> > the
> > > same position as when writing '�' (the long of
> 'I'). Thus, both
> > the
> > > long of 'I' and 'E' take a dot in the same
> position: 1/4 of the
> > way
> > > down from the top of the vertical line on the
> LEFT side.
> Remember,
> > > the dot forming the character for short 'E' is
> placed 1/2 of the
> > way
> > > down from the top. The reason we are drawing
> tall runes should
> be
> > > clear by now. Interestingly enough, the oldest
> inscriptions in
> our
> > > 16-letter alphabet feature tall and skiny runes,
> despite the
> fact
>

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