--- Dennis Nikitenko <kolgrimr@...> wrote: >
Greetings, all

>
> I have a question related to the phonetic meaning of
> one of the runes. In the Elder Futhark it's called
> Algiz: \|/, in the Younger (Danish) - Yr: |
> | |
> | /|\
>
> Both denote the same letter/sound: some sources say
> "z", the others - "R". "R" is always capitalized, I
> guess to differentiate it from "r" (Raido/Reid). So
> what does this mean? I've never seen the letter "z"
> in
> any of the Old Norse texts (I can't read them yet,
> but
> I can eyeball 'em :-), so a different "R" kind of
> makes sense. But then, why do some authors state "z"
> as the corresponding letter?
>
> I noticed this when I was looking at "The Thieves"
> cartoon. The runic inscription on the ship's bow
> spelled "ormR", yet I remembered the z vs. R thing,
> so
> I figured I'd ask.
>
> Also, since this my first time writing to this list,
> I'd like to thank Haukur Þorgeirsson and Óskar
> Guðlaugsson for their work. For someone like me,
> without the time and finances to seek out proper Old
> Norse textbooks (I think there's only one still in
> print in English), this course is absolutely
> priceless.
>
> Grateful, dazed and confused,
>
> Dennis
>
> Well,as far as I know, "R",is the descendant of

an Indo-european *s which was sondes in early
Germanic,whence the Z spelling.R is taken so that the
sound of the voiced sibilant undergoing the so
called"rhotacism"could be indicated(textbooks describe
it as something like the Czech r^).Besides I think
there are instances of z written for a ts-like
sound,found where a dental came to stand before a
sibillant.


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