Re: Substrate language which contributed sarSapa to Indo Ar

   Shivraj wrote:

>> I am afraid your derivation does not hold. If you study these correspondences: (Read the initial z as sanskrit श)

>> .......

>> Is'nt it clear that Tamil suppresses sanskrit श (z), ष (S), and स (s)?

>> Now let us look at mustard:

>> Sanskrit   Pali Tamil 

>> sarSapa    sasapa     aiyavi    

>> It is clear that Tamil mustard is derived from Sanskrit. 

>People like Burrow, Krishnamurtti, Zvelebil and Subrahmanyam who spent time and energy researching on Proto Dravidian ‘k’ and ‘c’ did not have such “advanced” knowledge which Shivraj possess on Dravidian languages. 

You may have overlooked Bhadriraju Krishnamurthy because he said exactly the same thing that I wrote. Not sure about other scholars. Here is a quote from his book "Telugu Verbal Bases: UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA PRESS (1961) ASIN B00A8O1VW4 Page 139":

" ...Tamil drops an Indo-aryan s, initial as well as medial. "

 Then he gives exactly the same example that I gave !

From the same page 139 I quote:

"E.g., Ta. Ayiram, Ka. sAsira, sAvira, Tu. sAvira, sAra thousand < IA sahasra-: ."

In general any hypothesis should be testable with data. In the current discussion I provided the data which you could not refute so you must look into whether your hypothesis is correct or not.

Lastly experts can be wrong too or can be misinterpreted. Data/evidence should be the primary driver for the acceptance or non acceptance of any thesis or rule.

Hope this helps,

Shivraj