Re: Is Basque IE?

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>> Dear group members,
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>> let me try and summarize what's been going on with this topic so far.
>> Since I posted > my first message over two weeks ago, I received few
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>> ones are fairly weak criticisms, by D. G. Kilday, mostly based on:
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>> - a rejection of key parts of Michelena's and Trask's commonly accepted
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>> reconstruction of Pre-Basque (it would be interesting to be pointed
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>> published material where such rejection is supported by some systematic
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>> evidence);
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>> - an analysis of a very small percentage of my etymologies, which are
>> either refuted > on various grounds (incl. the critic's unorthodox
>> reconstruction of Pre-Basque), or
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>> dismissed as "loans" when the similarity with other IE terms is too
>> evident to be
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>> otherwise dismissed.
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>> Comments by other fellow linguists would be very welcome.
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> [Tavi]
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> It's rather obvious (Paleo-Basque) has a Celtic *substrate* as well as other
> IE adstrates, namely Italoid (aka "Sorothaptic" and "Illyrio-Lusitanian"). I
> consider the Celtic layer to be a substrate rather than an adstrate, not
> only on the evidence of loanwords such as gizon 'man' but mainly from the
> toponyms in -otz (Basque) / -os (Gascon) / -ués (Aragonese) mentioned by
> e.g. Rohlfs and deriving from Celtic *uxsV- 'high', whose femenine
> superlative *uxs-ama: is found in Gaulish Uxama, Celtiberian Usama.

*Bhr.: If this is a sort of opinion poll, I find Gianfranco's
Indo-European treatment of Michelena's and Trask's Pre-Basque fully
convincing. Somebody already knows that I envisage a direct
transformation of a substrateless Proto-Indo-European into any
Indo-European linguistic class, each one within its Bronze Age area. I
have therefore no difficulty in getting Basque into such a frame;
conveniently verified Old Celtic place-names in Late Antique and
Mediaeval Vasco-Aquitanian area should testify to a continuity of
Celtic rather than Basque from Proto-Indo-European, otherwise I'm
completely satisfied not only with an emergence of Basque from
Proto-Indo-European somewhere The same holds true, in my really humble
opinion, for Čašule's Burū́šaskī