Re: Stacking up on standard works

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
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> > and PIE *k(^)wi-twa-ti- should give Grk. *tisatis,
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> > Wrong. Besides, those who connect isátis and woad assume borrowing >> G.
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> To clarify, kYw > kWw ( > etc.) appears true (-q- in Myc), but not kw (if, as likely, kapnías = smoky () is conn. to {kapniya()} Myc = chimney).
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> Also, kYw- > kWw- > kW- seems to give k / p / t before i , not just t:
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> çvíndate: = glare / gleam S;
> Píndaros = (name; "Fair" ?) G;
> Píndos = (mt; "White(-Capped)" ?) G;

Pindar was Aeolic, so his native dialect would have had *pi- from both *kWi- and *k^wi-, against Attic-Ionic *ti-. Cf. Aeol. _phe:r_ 'wild beast', _bana:_ 'woman'. On the equivalence of the *kW- and *k^w- series in Greek, see Hamp's etymology of _parthenos_ 'virgin' from *bHr.g^H-wenos 'fit to be protected' (or 'elevated', like a virgin on a pedestal).

> çvítna- \ çvitn[i]yá- = white S;
> Titáne: \ Pitáne: Lac = (name; "Fair" ?) G;
> Títaros = (mt; "White(-Capped)" ?) G;
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> and parallel but opposed in phon. to your *k(^)wi-twa-ti- > *tisatis, Pok. gives sim. to (though it easily might not be right):
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> *kYwitwnxó+s > *kYwitwëno+s > títanos \ kíttanos (f\m) = chalk G;
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Possibly _kittanos_ is a K-Illyrian form showing *-tw- > -tt-.

DGK