From: Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
Message: 71050
Date: 2013-03-08
>Thank You, I thought You meant "it's a root-shape impossible in PIE"; sorry
>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy
> <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>>
>> 2013/3/7, dgkilday57 <dgkilday57@...>:
>> >
>> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > > There's no reason to expect a regular change for either above;
>> >> > > quadru- shows tr > dr , dr > tr in taeter , maybe vitrum , and
>> >> > > definitely:
>> >> >
>> >> > In _quadri/u-_ we may have contamination with an old word for
>> >> > 'whetstone', *quadrum, replaced by _co:s_; cf. OE _hwaet_ 'keen,
>> >> > bold',
>> >> > OS _hwat_ 'id.', OHG _(h)waz_ 'sharp, rough, severe', ON _hvatr_
>> >> > 'bold,
>> >> > vigorous'; OE _hwettan_, OHG _wezzan_, ON _hvetja_ 'to whet', from
>> >> > PGmc
>> >> > *xwatjanan. Whetstones are generally square and *quadrum could have
>> >> > passed into the meaning 'square', whence _quadra:re_ 'to make
>> >> > square',
>> >> > and squares have 4 corners.
>> >> >
>> >> That is certainly a possibility that I would never have thought of.
>> >> There's a reason for that.
>> >>
>> > Note that Pokorny's root-shape *kWe(:)d-/*kWo(:)d- (IEW 636) is
>> > impossible.
>>
>> *Bhr.: why?
>>
> By Moeller's rule, PIE *kWod- would not produce Gmc. *xWat-, but *xat-. Cf.
> Gothic (etc.) _hals_ 'neck' < Gmc. *xalsa- against Lat. _collum_ <
> *kWolso-.
>
> Similarly PIE *kWo:d- would not produce Gmc. *xWo:t-, but *xo:t-.
>
> DGK
>