Re: Stacking up on standard works

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Tavi" <oalexandre@> wrote:

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> > Gamkrelidze-Ivanov and Nikolayev agree in deriving vitrum from *k´wei-t- 'light, white' (cfr. Lithuanian s^vìtra- 'sandpaper'), with *k´w- > Latin w- as in *k´wep- > vapor.
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I looked this up and found:

çvitrá- = white S; s^vitràs = glasspaper/sandpaper Lith;

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> That's not kYw- but kw- (kvapas = breath/odor Lith; etc.), and neither would be a regular change.
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> There's no reason to expect a regular change for either above; quadru- shows tr > dr , dr > tr in taeter , maybe vitrum , and definitely:
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> uter utri- = water-skin L; hudría = water pitcher G;
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> utur U; water E;
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> (showing it's Italic), and either dhr > tr or something odd in trahere, among some that are unclear.
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If vitrum is native, I'd derive it from vide:re w common dr > tr:

bright > shining/clear > gem/quartz > glass
bright > colorful > pain/dye > woad

but I'm not sure both are from the same word OR native.