Re: Stacking up on standard works

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@...> wrote:

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> > Gamkrelidze-Ivanov and Nikolayev agree in deriving vitrum from *k´wei-t- 'light, white' (cfr. Lithuanian s^vìtra- 'sandpaper'), with *k´w- > Latin w- as in *k´wep- > vapor.
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> That's not kYw- but kw- (kvapas = breath/odor Lith; etc.),
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Taht's right.

> and neither would be a regular change.
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There're many "irregular" (with regard to std model) sound changes in Latin.

> (showing it's Italic), and either dhr > tr or something odd in trahere, among some that are unclear.
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Latin trahere, as well as pinguis, would be rare instances of Grassmann's Law (although I don't support the reconstruction of "voiced aspirated").

> > On the other hand, Germanic *waizda- and Greek isátis 'goad (Isatis tinctoria)' would be derived from the same root with different suffixes.
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> I don't mind if it's not a regular change in L; but if you say rel. to s^vìtra-, what causes what's obv. not the reg. outcome in Germanic and Greek? That looks like good ev. AGAINST s^vìtra- : vitro- , even if 'woad' is primary (or 2 words happen to come to sound the same, let alone if from 2 orig. roots *wed- and *wis-).
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In these languages, 'goad' is likely a Wanderwort.