Re: Italo-Celtic dialect base words?

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 70936
Date: 2013-02-13

Could it have been Lusitanian? That could count for the P.

--- On Tue, 2/12/13, dgkilday57 <dgkilday57@...> wrote:

From: dgkilday57 <dgkilday57@...>
Subject: Re: [tied] Italo-Celtic dialect base words?
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, February 12, 2013, 8:59 PM

 



--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister wrote:
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> --- On Mon, 2/11/13, dgkilday57 wrote:
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" wrote:
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> > What it's curious about *wlkWo- is you many divergent "daughter" words. Latin lupus, instead of expected *vulcus; Greek lykos, instead of *Falpos, *Flapos (perhaps related to etnonym Lapithai) and Germanic *wulfaz instead of *wulxWaz. For all these divergences there are particular explanations, Osco-Umbrian substratal influence in Latin with metathesis (*wlkWo->*lukWo-), as in Greek. Convergence with a *wlp- is also possible, cf. Latin vulpes, Lit. vilp-.
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> The root-form *wl.kWo- is peculiar to begin with; one would expect a zero-grade *ulkWo-, apparently used in Celtic (Ulcagnus from Q-Celtic, Ulpius from P-Celtic). I cannot explain the discrepancy among *ulkWo-, *wl.kWo-, and *lukWo-, but it appears irrelevant to the Germanic labialization problem which I am currently addressing, since we need only *wl.kWo- in Gmc. provided we can explain the labialization.
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> There is an oddball Spanish name Ulpiano --could it be from Ulpius? If so, via Gaulish? If not, then from ?
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The direct source is probably the Roman cognomen Ulpianus, belonging to the prolific legal writer Cn. Domitius Ulpianus (c. 170-228 CE). This is based on the gentilicium Ulpius, of Spanish origin; one M. Ulpius Trajanus, consul suffectus c. 70 CE, was the father of the emperor Trajan. That the name is derived from 'wolf' is indicated by the tautological GN+CN of Ulpius Lupio, who with his wife dedicated a stone to Hercules Magusanus in the lower Meuse basin, on which I will have more to say in my forthcoming post on Magusanus and the Meuse.

The fact that the best-known Ulpii came from Spain, not Gaul proper, ties in with my theory that the P-Celtic homeland was in Asturias, next door to the (Q-)Celtic homeland in Galicia.

DGK