Re: HORSA vs. EXWA

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 70750
Date: 2013-01-21

I think we said as much a few years back --that it was probably either a fast chariot horse or a riding horse as opposed to a cart or plow horse

--- On Mon, 1/21/13, Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...> wrote:

From: Joao S. Lopes <josimo70@...>
Subject: Re: [tied] Re: HORSA vs. EXWA
To: "cybalist@yahoogroups.com" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 21, 2013, 5:47 AM

 

Could *horsa- came from Proto- Celtic *kRso-, maybe in the sense of charriot-horse?

JS Lopes



De: Francesco Brighenti <frabrig@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 21 de Janeiro de 2013 5:38
Assunto: [tied] Re: HORSA vs. EXWA

 


--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Tavi" wrote:

> Latin ursus looks like a loanword from a "satem" language,
> possibly Georgiev's "Pelasgian".

De Vaan (Etymological Dictionary of Latin and the Other Italic Languages, s.v. ursus) proposes that "some kind of tabooistic distortion probably affected the word for 'bear' [in Latin]."

> From our previous discussion about sound correspondences of the
> IE 'bear' word, I'd recall the velar stop in Hittite hartagga-
> doesn't derive from a "thorny cluster" but rather from a suffix like
> Turkic qarsaq 'steppe fox', a long-range cognate.

The Hittite form is phonetically hartak(k)a- < hartka-, perfectly explainable as a reflex of PIE *h2r.tk'o- 'bear'. See Puhvel at

http://tinyurl.com/ayra9ga

Regards,
Francesco