Re: Italo-Celtic dialect base words?

From: Joao S. Lopes
Message: 70741
Date: 2013-01-21

Assimilations and dissimilations are usual, don't forget Romance *cincu instead of Latin quinque. Maybe the F- in four (*fedwar) was result of assimilation to the F- in five (*finfi) in the recited sequence 4,5, ....
JS Lopes



De: Etherman23 <etherman23@...>
Para: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 21 de Janeiro de 2013 11:36
Assunto: Re: [tied] Italo-Celtic dialect base words?

 

There are a few words where Pre-Proto-Germanic has *p instead of the expected *kW. The number five springs to mind immediately. Most, if not all, can be explained either through assimilation (four) or dissimilation (five). I suppose there could have been a P-Germanic adstrate that disappeared but a handful of words is a mighty thin nail to hang that coat on.

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister wrote:
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> Germanic fimf would either be a result of **pempe or a borrowing from either P-Celtic or P-Italic or P-whatever, wouldn't it? Because we ain't got no P-Germanic or at least one I ever heard of.
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> --- On Sat, 1/19/13, Tavi wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [tied] Italo-Celtic dialect base words?
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> Date: Saturday, January 19, 2013, 12:19 PM
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" wrote:
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> > If Italo-Celtic really existed as a "language", there would be *kWenke
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> I don't think "Italo-Celtic" actually existed, except for some lexical
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> *penkWe '5' > *kWenkWe > P-Celtic *penpe and Germanic *finfi.
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