Re: Italo-Celtic dialect base words?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister wrote:

> Germanic fimf would either be a result of **pempe or a borrowing from either P-Celtic or P-Italic or P-whatever, wouldn't it? Because we ain't got no P-Germanic or at least one I ever heard of.

What we do have is a number of cases where pre-Grimm *p corresponds to *kW in other languages. Miguel championed PIE *pW, which resolved itself to *kW or *p in the daughter languages. The outcome *pW > *p is commonest in the development of Germanic, as seen in English words such as _four_, _five_, _liver_, _oven_, and _wolf_.

I too am sceptical of the existence of Italo-Celtic as anything more real than Iberian Romance. I think it is more a dialect area within the larger dialect area of Western IE (Italic, Celtic, Germanic).

Richard.