From: dgkilday57
Message: 70712
Date: 2013-01-18
>Thank you. I found a PDF copy of the paper (from RIEV 7:475-97) at euskomedia.org. It is lacking the map, and the diacritics do not all come out right (obviously a PDF made from a photocopy). Nevertheless it answers my question as "Vasconic". Saroi"handy considered the Basques to be descended from the Iberians (which is forgivable, since this was over a decade before Go'mez Moreno started making sense of the Iberian script). He observed that the three valleys in the mountains of Oloron have _apelha_, _escupa_, etc., against common Bearnais _abelha_, _escuba_, etc., with similar retention of unvoiced stops in _capeza_, _napo_, etc. in the Aragonese of the valley of Tena and the upper Cinca basin. These dialects also show voicing of stops after resonants, including Germanic loanwords: _blanga_ for Bearn. _blanca_, _bango_ for Arag. _banco_. This is what we have in most Basque dialects (but not Roncalo-Souletin). I think the best explanation is that these areas (Oloron, Tena, upper Cinca) were still Basque-speaking well into the Middle Ages. I see no point in postulating a distinct Pyrenaic Romance to explain S.'s data (although perhaps you have other facts pointing to one).
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" wrote:
> >
> > > A little correction: Although he studied the isoglosses shared by
> > > Aragonese and Bearnese, Elcock *never* posited a Pyrenaic substrate
> > > language (as he was reluctant to substrates in general), but he said
> > > that proposal was originally made by Saroïhandy, the pioneer of
> > > modern Aragonese studies.
> >
> > Was S.'s Pyrenaic substrate Vasconic or Romance?
> >
> I haven't read him, but perhaps the title of his article "Vestiges de
> phonétique iberienne en territoire roman" (1913) might tell us
> something.
>