From: stlatos
Message: 70510
Date: 2012-12-06
>That's only a problem if they're related, which I doubt. Instead, * kwasya-z > Kvasir = (wise Van formed from spit of gods, killed by dwarves who mixed his blood w honey to ferment into Mead of Poetry) ON; which most likely first meant the Mead of Poetry itself (rel. to ca:seus = cheese L; ) .
> > > > But the Gmc. shift *-o- > *-a- had already occurred (otherwise Fi. *-oov- from Early PGmc *-oHw-, no?)
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> > > Loaning before laryngeal loss would probably predict *-okk- or possibly *-ohv-. It sounds like you're thinking of the reconstruction of Proto-Uralic *-VxC- for Finnic *-VVC-, but this has actually been explained otherwise recently; and at any rate vocalization there would have been a much too ancient development to be fed by Germanic loans.
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> > I was thinking (tacitly) of MPF *-aaw- from EPGmc *-aHw-, regardless of the origin of NATIVE Finnic *-VVC-.
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> Anyway, no, I don't think there would be any reason to expect that as a substitution.
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> > > It would seem so, yes, but I'm not following how that matters for the aav~aww layer?
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> > I made the tacit assumption that PGmc laryngeals lasted about equally long in different positions, which is unwarranted. Odd things can happen with laryngeals.
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> Certainly. The original _olut_ "beer" even has a very curious doublet _kalja_ "ale" which seems older by certain features but younger by others.
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