Re: Ligurian Barga and */p/ (was: Ligurian)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Tavi" <oalexandre@...> wrote:

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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy

bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@ wrote:

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> > In sum, we have together come to this provisional conclusion:
> > Ancient Ligurian exhibited an albeit limited number of phonological
> > innovations from PIE;
> > */gwh/ > /b/ could be non-Celtic, but it's disputed;
>
> To the best of my knowledge, this can't be Celtic nor anything else.
> Leaving aside the *outdated* reconstruction of series III stops as
> "voiced aspirated", we've got gW > b in some paleo-IE dialect(s), as

in

> IE *g^we:r- 'wild animal' > Germanic *bi:ro:n 'bear' and related

Altaic

> forms. The reduced form with b- would possibly "reappear" in the

'brown'

> and 'beaver' (reduplicated) words.
>

By contrast, Germanic has *gW (= traditional gWh) > *w in Kurganic
words. I'd also lower the chronology of the Paleo-IE/Altaic node to the
Neolithic in account of lexical correspondences.