Re: Basque onddo

From: stlatos
Message: 70388
Date: 2012-11-01

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@...> wrote:


>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@> wrote:
> >
> > 1) The case of pignora doesn't add anything to the question, becasue I
> > had already conceded, for the sake of the argment, that velar nasal
> > <gn> may undergo palatalisation. The problem is /ng/, where /g/ is
> > different from /n/ for what matters.
>
>
> The purpose of describing peyndra , etc., is to show that N > y , L > y , k > y all occur, only 1 can be ascribed to k > x, so that simple x > y doesn't work; better all K>KY in 1 env.
>
>
> That Ng > NYg happened in Sp (as an intermediate before NYg > Ng), or even in some extinct l., is most easily seen by fungus > onddo. In Sp, the 2 outcomes of Ng before a front V (gingi:va > enzia OSp; ringi: > -ere > reñir) show the same alt. as tegno/tengo (but these not before a front V); most likely from NYge > NYgYe ( > NYGY opt.). Sim., ungula > uña shows dif. from amplus > ancho, etc., all most easily accounted for by N>NY first (shown by the outcomes of Nn, among others, as well as onddo).
>

Also, in:

camox = chamois L; chamois Fr; camoscio\camozzo It; gamuza Sp; camuça Pu; >> gamz OHG; Gams NHG;

with sim. ~ * gamudza >> * gamutsa > gamz

it seems that only something like:

ks
kYs
kYsY
kYsY tYsY
xYsY tYsY
xYsY ysY tYsY
sYsY ysY tYsY

can account for it all (depending on dif. between dia.).