Re: Indian Aryan and Indo-Iranian (was: Witzel and Sautsutras)

From: Singh - Jat
Message: 70313
Date: 2012-10-28

http://www.ancientscripts.com/avestan.html
 
Purple is Avestan, Red is Sanskrit. The ə symbol represents the mid central vowel (schwa) like the "e"s in "taken".
    təm amavantəm yazatəm
    tam amavantam yajatam

    surəm damohu scvistəm
    suram dhamasu savistham

    miθrəm yazai zaoθrabyo
    mitram yajai hotrabhyah


From: Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...>
To: "cybalist@yahoogroups.com" <cybalist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: [tied] Indian Aryan and Indo-Iranian (was: Witzel and Sautsutras)
 
Pretty much so. The Indo-Iranian tree, as I see it is something like this
 
IE
I. Indo-Iranian
A. Nuristani et al.?
B. Macro-Indo-Aryan
1. Mitanni Aryan
2. Sindes-Maeotian
3. Dardic?
4. Indo-Aryan (of the Subcontinent)
C. Iranian
 
Regarding Nuristani and Dardic, I'm guessing based on what I've read.
 
From: Richard Wordingham <richard.wordingham@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2012 4:15 PM
Subject: [tied] Indian Aryan and Indo-Iranian (was: Witzel and Sautsutras)
 
--- In mailto:cybalist%40yahoogroups.com, "shivkhokra" <shivkhokra@...> wrote: > --- In mailto:cybalist%40yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@> wrote: > > If you just consider the linguistic evidence at even a macro-level, it's obvious > > 1. That Indian-Aryan is derived from Indo-Iranian, which is derived from Indo-European > Let us just take your points one by one. Since the evidence is "obvious" can you please cite examples for your assertion that Indian Aryan is derived from Indo-Iranian? In case anyone proposes bothering to answer this question, will it suffice to demonstrate that: a) Avestan and Sanskrit are more closely relate to one another than to Old Church Slavonic, Greek or Hittite; b) Avestan and Old Persian are more closely related (in the sense of a common ancestor) to one another than to Sanskrit; and c) Sanskrit and Pali are more closely related to one another than to Avestan? Richard.