Re: Divergence vs. convergence (was: Witzel and Sautsutras)

From: Brian M. Scott
Message: 70252
Date: 2012-10-24

At 5:31:18 PM on Tuesday, October 23, 2012, Tavi wrote:

> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Jörg Rhiemeier
> <joerg_rhiemeier@...> wrote:

>> Just that. And the "rest of IE" changed between that
>> early split and its final disintegration into the
>> non-Anatolian IE languages. The standard model describes
>> Late PIE, i.e. the latest common ancestor of the
>> non-Anatolian IE languages, not perfectly but aptly
>> enough; Early PIE, the common ancestor of Late PIE and
>> Anatolian, was a quite similar language (it is only about
>> 500 to 1000 years older than Late PIE), but different in
>> some respects.

> In my view, there's no need for this "Early PIE" to be the
> ancestor of "Late PIE".

Thereby ignoring the overwhelming amount of linguistic
evidence supporting that view.

[...]

>>> A characteristically Tavi-esque non-answer, throwing
>>> around a lot of terminology without actually saying
>>> anything concrete. I believe that Jörg has had some
>>> experience of them in the past on the Zompist board, so
>>> it probably won't come as any surprise.

> A nasty Brian-esque "ad hominem" attack.

Apparently you don't know what 'ad hominem' means -- unless,
of course, the scare quotes are an indication that you're
using the term in some non-standard sense.

That's an accurate description of your posts. If you don't
like it, blame your own incompetence and your insistence on
putting that incompetence on display.

[...]

>>> And your evidence for this unsupported opinion is?

>> Waiting for that evidence is about as useful as waiting
>> for Santa Claus, I wager.

> On the contrary, this lexicon can be classified according
> to internal sound correspondences, relative chronology,
> and so on.

We're still waiting.

Brian