Re: ants was barb

From: stlatos
Message: 70129
Date: 2012-10-07

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
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> Keep in mind that Spanish and Portuguese have many doublets and triplets which show different levels of change from Latin
> iectare > echar


That's jactare.


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is the expected result because the initial /e/ is unstressed


But jactare and jacere both had forms in the paradigm in which ja- was stressed or unstressed; there's absolutely no regular reason for differentiation.


> Spanish also absorbed many regional forms as well as Lusisms and Catalanisms, etc.
> Enero could be a "rationalized" semi-learned form that took something like *ienero and rationalized that /ie/ is only "supposed" to occur in stressed syllables.
> Spanish, BTW, also has the name Genaro "Januarius"
> Given that time was under the control of monks in the Middle Ages, I suspect that the monks created a false erudite form resulting in enero, while the language naturally gave Genaro
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OK, who was in charge of VL-speakers and made them change t>d in madre, etc., but not in others?

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> From: stlatos <sean@...>
> To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
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> Subject: [tied] Re: ants was barb
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@> wrote:
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> > > You really refuse to accept anything but perfect regularity, don't you? I don't see why ja- > yacer, but > je- > echar, enero; but I accept that It happened.
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> > The soundlaws admit no exceptions.
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> That isn't science, it's a mania.