From: stlatos
Message: 70123
Date: 2012-10-05
>Also, your supposedly regular rule didn't work for alapus and alapa, w preserved -a-. For adsultus, w/o preserved -a-, there's no _P env. needed to follow the rule you created w TWO examples because you need total regularity. If there's more "phonetic complexity" I'm missing, let me know so I don't fall to far under the sway of opt. changes before I can be saved.
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> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
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> > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "stlatos" <sean@> wrote:
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> > > --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
> > > > When vowel-harmony trumps simple weakening, as with <adagium> against <pro:digium>, <alacer> against <alipe:s>, <monumentum> against <regimentum>, etc., we are dealing with phonetic complexity, not "optional changes". Doublets like the less common <monimentum> due to analogy are easily understood. I reject the connection of <e:legans> with <lego:>, which makes no morphological sense. I think <e:legans> means 'lying out' (i.e. 'outstanding') and involves a different root, which is attested in Faliscan.
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> > > What phonetic complexity differentiates alacer from alipe:s in terms of a-a remaining or a-a > a-e>i ? To approx. the most important part, why offendimentum = ~knot/band of priest's cap L; not * offendementum ? Words spelled like monumentum \ monimentum are due to -i- being pronounced SOMETHING like a central I/Y (no good symbol to use) before P.
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> > Did you just P on the monument? Where?
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> > You have already suggested what differentiates <alacer> from <alipe:s>, the pre-labial environment in the latter.
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> That is ridiculous. It is regular for -a- > -e- in ALL env., it is alacer that needs the expl., found by a-a. Adding a THIRD rule, the exc. to the exc., is needlessly complex to avoid a change easily seen to be as opt. as its opp. (two similar sounds at a distance dissim., like r-r > r-l, etc.).
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