Re: elementum

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 70099
Date: 2012-10-02

I seem to remember reading that elementum was from Greek via Etruscan. Is that true?

From: stlatos <sean@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 7:27 PM
Subject: [tied] elementum

 


The origin of the unknown:

elementum L;

should be from es- = be. If reg., it would be * erimentum L; not elementum L; < * esamentum < * xYes*-xY-mHn,-t*xYó+m (including -xY- (h1) like phóre:ma(t-) = burden G; etc.). The retention of -e- (* > i) should be eq. to -a- in assara:tum = ~blood wine; that is a-a-a() , etc., would (or can ?) be retained. That is simple enough, but l not r req. more thought. Since d > l (odor, oleo:) and d > r (medius, meri:die:s = noon) are seen in different contexts, and VsV usually has s>z>r, by combining them the possibility exists that s>z/V_V, opt. d>D/V_V , opt. D>z , opt. z>D , D>l , z>r/ , all existed (after T>f , etc., and its b/d alt. similar to r/l).

For some, this works best (or only) if it occurred in a dia. other than standard Roman Latin (and if then, some might not be opt.).

This is not quite what I would say. This alt. is not just in Latin, but all known IE. It is from dental C like s* > !* > l* (opt.), among others.

[*memlos>mlemos d> mlewos>mlYëwö] mlyuwe = thigh TB;
[*memlont+>mlemont+ d> mlewont>mlYëwönt] mulyunt TA;

[*memlon+ > melmon+ ] melmuõ = spine/small of back, mélmenys (p tan) = fat around the kidneys Lith;

[*memson+ > mi(m)son+ ] msan = thigh Ar;

[*momson+ > mosmon+ > mazman+ ] mammó Got;

[*mems+ > ] mish = flesh Al; mis () msoy (g) Ar; misa (p tan) TB; [memsó+m > mimzá+N] mimz = meat Got;
etc.

The s- and l-groups both show the same meaning, met., dis., etc.