Re: pottus, Genua, Durantia (was: Bart; was: Ligurian)

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

>
> W dniu 2012-06-08 12:41, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy pisze:
>
> > again the same disregard for ablaut. Nothing excludes a
> > straightforward *Dru-n.t.i(a)h2 (with Lindeman anlaut /druw-/) >
> > Druantia.
>
> Lindeman variants are not found in polysyllabic words. As far as I can
> see, the *expected* PIE syllabification of /CRG-/ (C = obstruent, R =
> liquid, G = glide) before a syllabic segment was [CRG.G-], not [CR.G-]
> (e.g. *trijo-, *druwo- rather than *tr.jo-, *dr.wo-).

What about:

ekhthrós = *outsider > enemy, ekhthaíro: = hate G;

spaíro: = quiver G; sphur- sphuráti = spurn / spring / quiver / tremble S;

bállo: = throw, bélos = missile G;

pállo: = shake/brandish, pelemízo: = shake/cause to tremble G

and maybe (dep. on the origin and nature of your rule above):

thairós = vestibule G;


Some of these might be from Cxy , but I think you said before that Cxy > Ciy or Cy in PIE (ie *bHelyom < *bHel-xW), so it should be even more strange. All I see is no regularity, but all opt. Cy > Ciy, etc., in any position, and its opposite.

> In other words,
> *druwn.t-ih2 would have been a perfectly normal feminine participle
> formed to the root *dreu- (=> *druwént-).
>
> Interestingly, nasals *were* syllabic before glides, as in the present
> stem *gWm.-je/o-, etc. This no doubt has to do with the degree of onset
> markedness (CR-type onsets are universally more common / less marked
> than the CN type).
>

Greek fem. in -nía / -aína also show opt., explained away w/out any good ev.