Re: Ligurian Barga and */p/ (was: Ligurian)

From: dgkilday57
Message: 69773
Date: 2012-06-06

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:
>
> 2012/5/30, dgkilday57 <dgkilday57@...>:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > Oops, I must retract this one. Blondelia (Tab. Vel. twice) is
> > morphologically parallel to Roudelius (also Tab. Vel. twice, P.S. p. 69).
> > The latter almost certainly contains the /o/-grade of another color-term,
> > *h1roudH- 'red', so Blondelia very likely contains the /o/-grade *bHlondH-
> > 'reddish, ruddy', regardless of the grade reflected in Gmc. and Indic.
> >
> > Therefore, I have no evidence that PIE */-n.-/ provides an isogloss between
> > Ligurian and Gaulish. In fact, if */-n.-/ became Lig. /-an-/, as in Gaul.,
> > the river Tanarus (Plin., now Ta`naro, P.S. p. 74) can be tentatively
> > reconstructed as *tn.h2-ro'-, corradical with *tn.h2-wo'-, Grk. <tanao's>
> > 'outstretched, tapered, long and thin', from a set.-root *tenh2- 'to stretch
> > to the limit' vel sim. The Ta`naro is a rather long tributary of the Po
> > (171 miles, whatever that is in euro-kilo-meters, about 260?), so perhaps
> > this is not too much of an etymological stretch.
>
>
> Bhrihskwobhloukstroy:
> 276 km
> Two reconstructions can yield Tanaro: *tnh2-ero-s and *tenh2-(e)ro-s,
> this latter with Joseph's rule -eRa- > -aRa-; another possible root
> would be *(s)tenh2- 'sound'

Petracco Sicardi seems to prefer that, but are 276 km of thunderous noise plausible? I might consider it if the Tanaro had a very large waterfall, and the river was named after the waterfall, more or less like the Niagara River. (Supposedly Niagara means 'Thunder', and was applied by natives to the area around the waterfall. I do not know what the same natives called the river, which at any rate is much shorter than the Tanaro.)

DGK