Re: Ligurian

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Bhrihskwobhloukstroy <bhrihstlobhrouzghdhroy@...> wrote:

>
> May I add that you never face my objection? You constantly apply a
> pseudologism: if there's a possible etymology for X, every other
> possible etymology of X must be wrong. You fail to make a constrastive
> evaluation between these possibilities.
>

AFAIK, Irish is a Celtic language, so as a matter of internal *coherence* we should first reconstruct a Proto-Celtic etymology before doing that for "PIE". In the case of your proposed etymology, we lack evidence a labiovelar in Celtic.

> I've proposed (and indeed already published in 2009) that Irish cass
> can represent the regular merger of both *kwös-to- (: *kwös-lo-s >
> Lat. qua:lus) and *közdh-to- (: *kozdh-o- > Germanic *hazda-).
>

According to Schrijver (quited by De Vaan), after a labial consonant Proto-Italic /o/ was unrounded to /a/, but only in *open* syllables (e.g. *mori > mari), so *kWos-lo- would give regularly Latin co:lum, but not qua:lus, which must be either a loanword or have a different etymology (De Vaan chose the latter).

To the best of my knowledge, the Irish word would correspond to Latin cassis 'hunting net'. Also besides the masculine *xazd-a-, Germanic has the feminine *xizd-o:n- (Old English heord 'hair', Middle Dutch herde 'flax fibers'), which corresponds to Greek kíste: 'basket' (> Latin cista).