Re: Greek psephas/knephas/dnophos/zophos: linked?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Torsten" <tgpedersen@...> wrote:

>
> You weren't making a point, you were making a claim, which I

understood several postings ago, namely that the denasalisations in the
loans from Altaic and Kartvelian was done in a particular IE dialect,
the existence of which I haven't seen you argue anywhere.

I never said there were "loans" nor what it was an "IE" but a *paleo-IE*
dialect.

> > What I said is that what IE-ists call "PIE" doesn't represent a
> > single but several languages (i.e. paleo-IE dialects) which through
> > several replacement and contact processes superimposed to form the
> > IE family. And in one of these paleo-IE dialects denasalization
> > happened.
>
> Yes, I heard you the first time.
>

But you didn't understand what I said: there's no real "PIE" but a bunch
of several paleo-IE dialects.

> > But I don't think your alternative is much better.
>
> Whatever. Cluster reduction from dn- would unite the "fog" word(s)

with the dnóphos, gnóphos, knéphas "darkness" words. Your
proposal wouldn't. Occam likes.

>

As I said before, I don't think the Greek are related to 'fog' but to
'night' words in other languages, including NEC and IE.