Re: apple

From: Tavi
Message: 69245
Date: 2012-04-05

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Rick McCallister <gabaroo6958@...> wrote:
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> > Also Latin si:mius 'monkey, imitator' < *seim- can be linked to ima:go 'image' and aemulus 'imitator;
> > enemy, rival' < *h2eim-.
>
> Yes, but only if the latter words were borrowed from Greek, Armenian or Iranian
>
Not exactly, but from the paleo-dialect of the Steppes from which these languages descend.

> > There's also *sem- 'one, the same' (Latin similis) vs. *yem- 'twin' (Sanskrit yamá-).
> But wouldn't Latin gem- "twin" point to another direction
>
As Latin is a "centum" language, g- could reflex either a palatalized velar stop *g^ or an affricate *dZ which yield *y- in the paleo-dialect of the Steppes.

> Tavi --you're too busy trying to reinvent the wheel, use the information that's already out there or you'll go bonkers
>
Rick, I'm afraid these things aren't covered at all in the IE literature, except perhaps by Gamkrelidze-Ivanov, which aren't exactly mainstream.

Speaking of wheels, I think IE *seh2ul 'sun' could be the satemized version of a word whose original meaning was 'circle', hence 'wheel' as in NEC *3wil3a (where /3/ stands for the epiglottal stop). This way, Old Irish súil 'eye' < *su:li wouldn't derive from 'sun' as commonly though but from a homonymous root represented by NEC *3wil3i 'eye'.