Re : [tied] Re: Germanic 'bear'

From: patrick cuadrado
Message: 68793
Date: 2012-03-06

hello
does any links between Germanic * Beron (Bear) and * Bairaz (Boar) = Brown one or Wild one (Ghwer- ?= latin ferus)

Patrick
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--- En date de : Lun 5.3.12, Tavi <oalexandre@...> a écrit :

De: Tavi <oalexandre@...>
Objet: [tied] Re: Germanic 'bear'
À: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Date: Lundi 5 mars 2012, 23h06

 
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:
>
> You disagree with *what* in the case of Germanic? I think I made it
> clear that I supported the *g^Hwer- 'etymology', though I did not
> consider 'the brown one' a priori absurd, just unlikely for formal
> reasons.
>
If I understood you well, you said Germanic "replaced" the inherited IE word by another one, is that right? Well, I think it was rather the other way around, that is, it was the IE word which didn't "catch" in Germanic.

> As for Baltic, what do you propose instead?
>
I proposed a possible link between BS *tla:k- 'bear' and these words:

- Semitic *dalak'/g- ~ *dVk'al- 'marten; wild cat; lynx'
- NEC *dVlVgV 'a small wild animal'
- Altaic *dorVkV 'a k. of badger'