Re: eH- themes, 5th Declination Latin, IE cognates?

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Tavi" <oalexandre@...> wrote:

>
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@> wrote:
> >
> > I recently argued in favor of *kenh1-, which I believe covers
> practically everything Burrow placed under *kan-, and supersedes my old
> post cited above.
> >
> To me, it looks like a "cousin" of *g´enh1- 'to bear a child; to be
> born', which I link to NEC *ts'än?V 'new'.

The roots *kenh1- and *g^enh1- have similar shapes. That is all. There is no basis for connecting them etymologically.

Those of us open to long-range connections, but unable to assess proposed links to NEC roots, would benefit if you provided some basics in your Vasco-Caucasian Files. One would like to see the reflexes in the individual languages. At the minimum, one would like to be able to exclude borrowings into NEC from Gothic, Ossetic, and the like.

> > > But IMHO your semantical proposal (that is, deriving 'dog' from
> 'small
> > > animal') is good, in despite there's no IE etymology for this word.
> >
> > That is not "my" proposal, and it has an obvious parallel
> >
> I don't think "obvious" would be right here. I can't see any near
> relationship between canis and catulus, nor I don't think they derive
> from the forementioned root.

I did not propose an etymological relationship between <canis> and <catulus>. I pointed out the parallel semantic development 'whelp' (generic) > 'puppy' (specific) > 'dog'. In my view this happened in Latin with <canis>, and in Umbrian with the direct cognate of <catulus>. I apologize if my wording made this unclear.

> > in Umbrian <katel> 'dog'; Latin <catulus> 'whelp' is less specific.
> >
> The use of 'whelp' (< 'young animal') applied to dogs is rather common,
> e.g. in Galician-Portuguese the femenine form of can, ca~o 'dog' is
> cadela 'bitch'. But by no means it has to be taken as a general rule.

I think we agree on the parallel, then.

DGK