Re: Kings and Judges

> > >
> > > I've earlier mentioned some intriguing connections between
> > > Jewish law at the time of the Book of Judges and Germanic Law.
> >
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/67185
> > > and ff., esp.
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/67353
> > > and further
> > > http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/cybalist/message/67279
> > >
> > > Here's another fun fact: the Germanic
> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thervingi
> > > were ruled by kings *and* judges:
> >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/6d7qte8
> > > http://tinyurl.com/6jqx9qh
> > >
> > > But whether he was called scabinus/Schöffe I don't know. It is a
> > > possibility.
> > >
> > > Torsten
> >
> >
> >
> --- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "Joao S. Lopes" <josimo70@> wrote:
> >
> > I suspect some of the Book of the Judges's tales could be
> > reminiscences of IE Philistean/Anatolian/Mitanian mythology.
> > There's somethoing Varunic in Joshua stopping the sun, and
> > something Vishnu/Vidarr trait in Moses crossing Red Sea. Moses is
> > linked to Midianites... Mitanian substratum?
> >
> > JS Lopes
> >

--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "cafaristeir" <cafaristeir@...>

> wrote:
>
> All right, Joao.
>
> According to J.Amsler, Samson's story was of Indo-European origin :
> the invulnerable warrior who commits three sins before being
> deprived of his strength and defeated. His enemies, the Philistines,
> were possibly Indo-Europeans.

> In my opinion, if there are coincidences in the Frenkish and the
> Judaic laws, this was not due to a common background, but rather to
> the fact that those Frenkish laws were written down in Latin by
> Christian scribes who knew the Biblical precedents.
>
> Olivier
> http://sambahsa.pbworks.com/

Joao doesn't mention any coincidences in Frankish and Judaic laws. You must be referring to the connections between Jewish law and Germanic law I mentioned, here specifically the Thervinngian Gothic institution of having ruling judges along with ruling kings.

I don't think such a fundamental institution would have been introduced by the scribes who wrote down the preexisting oral law. I find it more likely that Jews amongs the Bastarnians over mnany generations influenced the thinking behind the laws and introduced elements of Jewish law into it.


Torsten