Re: floor

From: Rick McCallister
Message: 68029
Date: 2011-09-10

And then there is Spanish and Portuguese cachorro (and possible regional forms) which appear to be based on metathesis of txakur.
There is also Spanish sabueso "bloodhound", which somehow looks un-Romance


From: Tavi <oalexandre@...>
To: cybalist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2011 3:59 AM
Subject: [tied] Re: floor

 
--- In cybalist@yahoogroups.com, "dgkilday57" <dgkilday57@...> wrote:
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> I never said that I thought these words were borrowed. I regard Basque <txakur'> as inherited from West Mediterranean.
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But its phonetic shape is mostly un-Basque. Also Basque has lots of loanwords from extinct languages.

> The only plausible cognates which I have seen are those cited by Hubschmid, namely Corsican <ghia'garo> 'hunting dog' and Sardinian <g^a'garu> 'id.'.
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Don't forget Balkanic zagar and Greek zágaros, zágari 'a k. of bloodhound' (Trombetti). But IMHO these words aren't related to zakur but they reflect a Mediterranean Wanderwort found in PNC *tsEhwo:le (~ -a) 'fox, jackal', Kartvelian *dz\aGl-, Dravidian *dZa:[v]il- 'dog' and ultimately from the Eurasiatic root *dZE:lGV ~ *dZE:GlV 'a small carnivore animal (fox, weasel)' (Dolgopolsky's ND 2776).

> For the phonology, cf. Bq. <etxe>, <etxa-> 'house' from Celtic *tegja:,
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This etymology is highly unlikely.

> As (e.g.) <txori> was regarded as the diminutive (properly hypocoristic) of <zori>,
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This is a case of homonymy, as txori 'bird' is semantically unrelated to zori 'luck'.

> so has <zakur'> been formed in Basque as the augmentative of <txakur'>.
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But there also exists the forms kakur and ttattur /cacur:/, the last with expressive palatization, which suggest the initial consonant was formerly a velar, assibilated in txakur, zakur.

I'd also suggest we continue discussions involving Basque in my own list: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/vasco-caucasian/