Re: The other "Venedi" of the Tabula Peutingeriana

From: george knysh
Message: 67890
Date: 2011-07-01

--- On Fri, 7/1/11, Piotr Gasiorowski <gpiotr@...> wrote:

W dniu 2011-07-01 15:50, george knysh pisze:



> A lot of VENEDS/VENETS in 332! All apparently speaking distinct languages.

> (a) those of Armorica probably still there

> (b) and those of Italy

> (c) and those of Latvia

> (d) and those of the Oka

> (e) and those of Danubian Sarmatia

> (f) and the Slavs...

> (g) and?...



Not the only such case, cf. Brigantes : Burgundiones. Some tribal names

are typologically common, and flattering or self-congratulatory ones

often fall into this category. If PIE *wenh1-eto- meant something

'friendly, loveable, honourable', who wouldn't have liked to be a Venet?

****GK: Did any of the attested IE languages keep that meaning, as far as you can tell? Might be interesting to know. Doesn't sound too applicable to this lot:

""Venedi multum ex moribus [Sarmatorum ]traxerunt; nam quidquid inter Peucinos Fennosque silvarum ac montium erigitur latrociniis pererrant." Tacitus, Germania, 46)

Unless we think of Soviet style self-evaluations (:=))) *****